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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ to World News@lemmy.ml • 2 years ago

Strategists admit West is goading China into war

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ to World News@lemmy.ml • 2 years ago
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  • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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    5•2 years ago

    A lot better than in western shithole countries.

    • @andyquest@sh.itjust.works
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      12•2 years ago

      Always shocked to see how debilitating of a mental illness tankie brain is

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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        3•2 years ago

        Amazing counter point you got there.

        • @andyquest@sh.itjust.works
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          8•2 years ago

          You should re read your own comment that I’m responding to. You weren’t exactly making a point, lmfao. Truly mental illness bruv

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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            2•2 years ago

            Nah, I made my point quite clearly bruv.

            • @andyquest@sh.itjust.works
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              5•2 years ago

              Ah, well, then my thought-out counter point is that the elections in the eastern shithole countries were worse :)

              • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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                3•2 years ago

                A lot of people who actually live there seem to disagree with you, and say things got a lot worse for them once they got to experience enlightened western democracy. Obviously we should take your word for it though, since you’ve clearly shown yourself to be a knowledgeable intellectual in this thread.

                • A remarkable 72% of Hungarians say that most people in their country are actually worse off today economically than they were under communism. Only 8% say most people in Hungary are better off, and 16% say things are about the same. In no other Central or Eastern European country surveyed did so many believe that economic life is worse now than during the communist era. This is the result of almost universal displeasure with the economy. Fully 94% describe the country’s economy as bad, the highest level of economic discontent in the hard hit region of Central and Eastern Europe. Just 46% of Hungarians approve of their country’s switch from a state-controlled economy to a market economy; 42% disapprove of the move away from communism. The public is even more negative toward Hungary’s integration into Europe; 71% say their country has been weakened by the process.

                • The most incredible result was registered in a July 2010 IRES (Romanian Institute for Evaluation and Strategy) poll, according to which 41% of the respondents would have voted for Ceausescu, had he run for the position of president. And 63% of the survey participants said their life was better during communism, while only 23% attested that their life was worse then. Some 68% declared that communism was a good idea, just one that had been poorly applied.

                • Glorification of the German Democratic Republic is on the rise two decades after the Berlin Wall fell. Young people and the better off are among those rebuffing criticism of East Germany as an “illegitimate state.” In a new poll, more than half of former eastern Germans defend the GDR.

                • A poll shows that as many as 81 per cent of Serbians believe they lived best in the former Yugoslavia -“during the time of socialism”. The survey focused on the respondents’ views on the transition “from socialism to capitalism”, and a clear majority said they trusted social institutions the most during the rule of Yugoslav communist president Josip Broz Tito. The standard of living during Tito’s rule from the Second World War to the 1980s was also assessed as best, whereas the Milosevic decade of the 1990s, and the subsequent decade since the fall of his regime are seen as “more or less the same”. 45 percent said they trusted social institutions most under communism with 23 percent choosing the 2001-2003 period when Zoran Djinđic was prime minister. Only 19 per cent selected present-day institutions.

                • 75% of Russians have expressed increasingly positive opinions about the Soviet Union over the years. Only a small portion of those surveyed said they had negative associations with the Soviet Union. The economic deficit, long lines and coupons were named by 4% of respondents each, while the Iron Curtain, economic stagnation and political repressions were named by 1% each, the Levada Center said.

                • @FireMyth@lemmy.one
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                  7•2 years ago

                  Typical yog- posts a bunch of articles from a decade ago as if they are still relevant- fails to read the next page that completely discredits his argument and/or posts from an obviously biased source e. Lol. Dismiss and move along- nothing to see here… again.

                  • @Tosti@feddit.nl
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                    Purged by creator

        • @yata@sh.itjust.works
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          5•2 years ago

          Here is the projection. When faced with your own methods you are quick to point out the bad faith which you yourself have systematically applied in every single comment in this very thread.

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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            1•2 years ago

            No, I’ve made actual arguments in this thread. Maybe read them and try to comprehend what was said.

    • @DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de
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      9•2 years ago

      I’m speechless.

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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        5•2 years ago

        Maybe educate yourself on the subject then. A democracy is a government that works in the interest of the majority and is held accountable to the people of the country. A government like that would ensure that everybody had food, housing, healthcare, education, jobs, and retirement the way USSR did and the way none of western “democracies” seem to be able to.

        • reddwarf
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          8•2 years ago

          You are really delusional and a liar. I do not believe for one second you grew up in the USSR, not one nano second. If you were present during that that period you would have noticed that these proud USSR population did not walk but ran towards the west and all the things they really wanted. Not what USSR barely could provide (remember the lines before shops? No you don’t, you were not there) but what the west could and would provide. You casually forgot that. Well, you could not forget little liar as you lied about being alive and present in that period.

          I was and I call you out: liar!

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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            3•2 years ago

            You can’t believe that I grew up in USSR and actually liked my life there because you’re smooth brained victim of western propaganda. And when you’re faced with people who actually lived in USSR and liked it, you’re incapable of processing this information. Meanwhile, you can stop calling me a liar, cause I still even have my original USSR passport. Learn to deal with it troll.

            You can keep calling me whatever you like, but anybody reading this thread can clearly see that you’re just insane.

            • ֆᎮ⊰◜◟⋎◞◝⊱ֆᎮ
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              5•2 years ago

              Nice photoshop lol.

              • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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                1•2 years ago

                🙄

                • ֆᎮ⊰◜◟⋎◞◝⊱ֆᎮ
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                  5•2 years ago

                  There are a few too many compression artefacts and the small/strange aspect ratio/resolution of something you would’ve used a phone to snap a picture of…

                  Post one with you holding or giving me the middle finger or something and I’ll believe you. I’ll even go snap one of my Ukrainian passport (I burnt my soviet one). I might have my Polish one somewhere though…

                  • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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                    You’re such a bad troll, it’s hilarious. Maybe learn how jpeg compression works there before playing detective. 😂 Hilarious how you think I’m going to dox myself for you here. You believe whatever you like though, it’s pretty clear that you live in your own alternate reality.

            • @FireMyth@lemmy.one
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              5•2 years ago

              Feel free to go back. Nobody wants you outside of there anyway

        • @DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de
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          7•2 years ago

          Maybe educate yourself on the subject then

          This is such a disengenuous statement dripping with derision. Honestly trotting out this glib phrase is a clear declaration that you’re not interested in a good faith discussion.

          A democracy is a government that works in the interest of the majority and is held accountable to the people of the country.

          The vast majority of people in “shithole western countries” would say that this is true of their government. I’m not sure that’s true for people living in the USSR.

          everybody had food, housing, healthcare, education, jobs, and retirement the way USSR did

          We have all of those things. Sure they’re not directly provided by the government, but the government develops legislation to ensure that the overwhelming majority of citizens have great access to those things. The idea of a food shortage in Australia is unheard of. Was that true of the USSR?

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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            This is such a disengenuous statement dripping with derision. Honestly trotting out this glib phrase is a clear declaration that you’re not interested in a good faith discussion.

            Don’t pretend you were ever interested in having any sort of good faith discussion here.

            The vast majority of people in “shithole western countries” would say that this is true of their government. I’m not sure that’s true for people living in the USSR.

            Given the level of discontent in western societies right now, I don’t believe you. Meanwhile, as opinion polls show majority of people who lived in USSR now say they prefer the old system after getting a taste of the capitalist paradise.

            We have all of those things.

            There are literal tent cities of homeless people growing in many G7 countries each and every year:

            • https://caufsociety.com/list-of-tent-cities-in-america/
            • https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/canada-homeless-tent-encampments-1.6548241
            • https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/17437fc6fcf94430843a15f727a5260f
            • https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2023-04-11/in-seouls-piece-rooms-theres-not-even-enough-room-to-lay-down-inside-south-koreas-brutal-housing-crisis

            The idea of a food shortage in Australia is unheard of. Was that true of the USSR?

            CIA says that people in USSR ate just as much as Americans after WW2 period while having better nutrition:

            • https://www.scribd.com/document/430076844/CIA-RDP84B00274R000300150009-5-pdf
    • @yata@sh.itjust.works
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      6•2 years ago

      And here is the whataboutism. Instead of replying to the question you attempt to deflect by pointing fingers. Again, typical of your bad faith behaviour.

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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        2•2 years ago

        Very on the nose for you to use a logical fallacy as a form of argument. Comparing democracy in USSR to the available alternatives is precisely how you determine the quality of the democracy.

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