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Performers working in the games industry have spoken of their distress at being asked to work on explicit content without notice, including a scene featuring a sexual assault.
Sex scenes are common in modern games - and are often made by filming human actors who are then digitised into game characters.
But performers have told the BBC a culture of secrecy around projects - where scripts are often not shared until the last moment - means they frequently do not know in advance that scenes may involve intimate acts.
They describe feeling “shaken” and “upset” after acting them out.
Performing arts union Equity is demanding action from the industry - it has published guides on minimum pay, and working conditions in games, including on intimate or explicit scenes.
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Sec scenes are common in modern games?
Y’all I’ve been big into Armored Core 6, Stardew Valley and Factorio lately what have you been up to?
Edit: I’m being flippant, the idea that an actor could have such a thing sprung on them is awful and I hope they get the protections they deserve.
😏 haven’t unlocked the sex scene in Factorio yet I see.
Not only the factory grows!
New NSFW game pitch:
Fucktorio
The bellies must grow
I rail trains every time I play.
Usually the trains are the ones doing the railing at least for me.
Biters want one thing and it’s disgusting
I wanna git gud enough at Armored Core to see the robots fuck.
I know you’re being flippant and it definitely is a real issue, but my first reaction was the same. I’ve played plenty of games with some sexual content in them, but never one with sexual violence other than implied, and usually even the consensual scenes were fade to black, or close to fading to black. I was a little surprised to hear that this is going on.
I’ve played GTA: San Andreas, and I don’t think there’s anything overtly sexually explicit in that one (besides the Hot Coffee thing, which still isn’t that bad? It’s simulated sex acts while the characters still wear their clothes). Even Cyberpunk has like two sex scenes (I never went to the joyous besides for that one mission) that you only really see tits from a first-person pov.
Though I realize that doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.
Not to be that guy, but Stardew and Factorio both came out in 2016 (early access for Factorio). They’re nearly a decade old, so I’m not sure they qualify as modern.
Considering Factorio is still in development and has a major upcoming DLC release, I’d call it modern. Plus the modding scene is still pretty active.
The Skyrim modding scene is pretty damn active too. Yet I still wouldn’t consider it modern. Stellaris as well. Still receives DLC, modding scene is amazing. Still, nearly a decade old game, and it shows.
Skyrim was barely a modern game when it was new.
Most of the work on facturio has been on the underlying engine. Factories that would bring a high end PC to it’s knees, at the start, now race along on a mediocre PC.
The factorio devs don’t play factorio in the game anymore, they play it with the engine. By the results, they are both a team of geniouses and completely addicted.
EU4 has received continuous updates and DLCs since it came out in 2013, but I wouldn’t call it modern (still love it though).
I think “modern game” is really a semantics thing tbh. Like, is Age of Empires 2 a modern game, old game, or ancient game? I think it really comes down to how you’re playing the game, rather than the year of original release.
Worms: Armageddon is another example. Is it an ancient game because of its release date, or is it a modern game because people are developing new rules and scripts to play the game by every year?
Aoe2 is a modern game. And it’s the only modern game. Everything else is a distraction.
Edit: I put that Saving Private Ryan meme here, but it ended up rendering really huge, so I’m gonna remove it.
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You haven’t lived if you haven’t watched all four sex scenes in Splatoon
If you don’t have mods giving you graphical sex scenes os Stardew Valley, what have you been up to?
Playing path of exile, I’m horrified at the idea of a sex scene
(maven feet though…)
Shadow fucked Piety in lore
Wait wat??
Piety was a prostitute in Oriath. Clarissa tells you about it.
Ooooh, that bitch
For real, this. I’m playing everything from nice fluffy casual games to M rated horrorshows and I don’t remember the last game I played that had a voiced sex scene. A few horror titles or indie games have certainly included sex or even sexual assault, but not voiced.
BG3 is fine and good as noted by another commenter (haven’t actually played it myself), so what games are you guys playing?
Not okay, not letting them know what they are signing up for… it’s like having them do stunts.
What game does sex scenes? Usually it just fades to black
Baldur’s Gate 3 gets pretty explicit
They had a dedicated intimacy coordinator for those scenes who worked with the actors to make sure they were comfortable with it
Oh yeah, they handled it properly for sure.
Custer’s Revenge for the Atari 2600. I play this game exclusively.
Sponge Bob Back to Bikini Bottom
What game does sex scenes? Usually it just fades to black
Witcher III is the only one I can think of off the top of my head. I vaguely recall Fable 1 doing the fade-to-black thing, but then staying black and playing out some cliche moaning, which is kind of the same thing from the voice actors’s perspective.
Whole category of dating sims and basically soft-core-porn games, which I’m sure have a high demand for acting out these kinda of scenes.
Fable was very much played for laughs. I can remember some guy going “ooh I like that” in a camp voice.
Heavy Rain and The Last of Us 2 had very awkward sex scenes though.
The Witcher
Especially weird for the actor of the unicorn.
Far cry… 3? I think? Has a short sex scene.
Jup… One of the endings involves the protagonist having sex with a cult leader and then >!getting sacrificed as soon as he cums inside her!<.
wouldn’t be surprised if it was Ubisoft. they love sexual assault
Cyberpunk 2077
Baldurs Gate 3 still getting praise long after release. Serious unicorn in the game industry!
I say BG3 is to the 2020s what Skyrim was to the 2010s
That’s an insult to BG3 and Larian.
agree… let’s say “the skyrim we remember all, with all the beautiful mods fixing the outrageous real state of the game.”
Just to be a counterweight: I have ~15 hours in BG3. At some point I just realized it’s not for me. I can’t really put my finger on it, but it just doesn’t strike any nerve for what I enjoy in video games.
Skyrim, however was my favorite game through the 2010s, with probably north of 500 hours across multiple platforms.
Maybe it’s something about the pacing and freedom to disregard the story elements.
Oh I see where the controversy comes from. I’m not implying they are for the same people, although of course there is an overlap because they’re both fantasy.
All I’m saying is, within the fantasy genre, BG seems to be causing a similar impact as a game as Skyrim did in its time. Both give what their fandoms want, both feel fresh and innovative/creative enough at the time of release, both offer a lot in replay value. They are very different games though.
Bro what’s the point of being an actor if you get offended by playing a role.
Ms Jefferies told the BBC she was once asked to act out a scene with a male performer involving a sexual assault with no prior warning. “I turned up and was told what I would be filming would be a graphic rape scene,” she said.
Imagine taking a role where nobody tells you there’s anything sexual about it and showing up one day and someone’s like “alright time for the rape scene.”
“The what?“
“The rape scene, you’re character is going to be raped and we need you to mocap it with this guy. Suit up!"
Taking a job doesn’t entitle the studio to do whatever they want to you or have you do whatever they want. Standard guild actors will almost always have a nudity and sex clause in their contract. The same doesnt seem to be happening in the gaming industry for VAs and mocap actors, with studios hiding the degree of work behind NDAs to protect their projects and their asses.
I’m not sure what industry you’re in, but most jobs include standards of what is generally included and expected. You can find unscrupulous people in any industry who will do the jobs that others reject, but they are not the norms.
If you are in a contract and the terms suddenly change to include something unexpected and outside the standard expectations, don’t you want someone in a decision making position to speak up? That’s all that’s going on here, at least from a labor perspective.
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If you genuinely don’t see that as a problem, I’m concerned for the safety of women around you.
Im more concerned that this people did not take the time to read their contracts or have their terms reviewed. Work for people you can trust or get a lawyer.
- time for the surprise sex scene
- that’s not in my contract
- then you’re fired
- then you’ll be hearing from my lawyer
THE END
Do people not have right to feel uncomfortable?
Most actors don’t like having to have sex with someone they barely know without anyone warning them beforehand or making sure they aren’t abused.
Easy. Just hire escorts. They will make the motions and take the money.
What makes you think an escort would like acting a rape scene more than anyone else?
I don’t. Just saying it’s an alternative option.
Honestly I’m confused on the issue here because so many people (maybe vocal minority?) show support for sex workers, yet it’s an issue to propose an option to hire them for a non sex role? Am I missing something on the “their body, their choice” thing? Like, if they don’t want to do the job they won’t do it, right? Just seemed like the way to go, idk.
Why suggest sex workers to act a rape scene rather than plumbers or programmers though?
I suspect you think of escorts as people who will do anything for money.
Or:
Easy. Just share the scripts in a reasonable advance to allow actors either withdraw from the project or brace/prepare themselves for the uncomfortable scenes.
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