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I FUCKING CALLED IT. The irony is that if they’d dropped the requirement a year or so sooner then I would’ve upgraded to Windows 11 and probably not be planning on my next computer being Linux.
Who gives a shit?
- you’re going to get a worse experience in win11 compared to win10 (extra ads and extra copilot)
- your win10 pc will lose M$ support on October 2025
- if you update to win11 today with a non TPU enabled chipset, you’ll lose M$ support today
Just remind me again why I should upgrade to win11?
Are they not pushing updates out for Windows 11 on machines without TPM 2.0? If they are then it’s still “supported” lol.
Someone noticed users weren’t gonna shell out for new kit
Has “official” M$ support ever done anything useful for home users? Error documentation might as well be nonexistent, support forums are filled with copy/paste uselessness that more than ever come from “independent advisors” rather than M$ themselves. So really, what are people losing out on?
That’s all it takes to keep people bound to that OS. Most will never install linux
Sad but true.
And I’m saying it as a 30+ years daily user of linux. Which also has had a lot of interactions with end users.
If there’s one thing that people hate, it’s change. They hate it when their version of windows changes, so changing for an entirely different system is right out. Even though the differences are trivial to the tech crowd.
Didn’t they recently say that it was technically impossible or something?
I expected something like this to happen. There was no way they were going to be allowed to just make so many computers insecure.
But I’m guessing the windows experience is going to intentionally be made extra bad on those “old” computers.
My sides! That crap is losing ground to older versions, and now they’re lowering the requirements!
Hey, when is Windows going to stop working if your keyboard doesn’t have a Microsoft® approved Copilot® keyboard? It would be damn great!
apt-get moofor you guys.EDIT: why are yall downvoting this and the_crotch’s comments? Serious question.
Right? Where does Microsoft get off adding minimum hardware requirements to windows 11 for the first time ever?
The laughable part is the hardware list keeps slipping, my 2017 HP workstation said it was not supported due to CPU, now it recently changes to get ready for W11. Like all of a sudden when they see no one is adopting 11 as fast as they want they go and change requirements.
What I’m picking at is not requiring some min HW to run their adware. It’s how much, compared with the development of their OS. W11 is mostly W10+trash.
The requirements are 7 year old hardware. While not everyone upgrades their PC every 7 years, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to stop supporting 7 years old hardware. Apple requires iPhone XS (6 years old) for iOS 18, Google requires Pixel 6 (3 years old) for Android 15, MacOS Sequoia requires 6 years old laptops. Turns out Microsoft is the one giving the most support.
The requirements listed things that W11 doesn’t technically require, like TPM. The OS works just fine without it. It was a business requirement, not a technical one, that got people upset.
TPM is required for Windows 11 because it is used for security purposes. The world is filled with things that aren’t “technically required” but they are actually required because they help prevent things. The web doesn’t “technically require” HTTPS, but modern websites require an HTTPS connection. A seatbelt isn’t “technically required” to drive a car, but you are required to wear one anyways.
This is like a car seat manufacturer refusing to “support” cars without seatbelts and then claiming their new line of seats is secure.
Pcs aren’t phones, dude. Most new systems don’t have the specs on my beast and she’s WELL past the 7 year mark
I would disagree given that two of the most efficient computer chips are based on phone SOCs (Qualcomm and Apple). Anyways, the fact that your system is powerful doesn’t mean anything from a support standpoint. Supporting old hardware means you need different versions for devices with different capabilities and architectures, which is not feasible for a company that also wants to focus on new technologies. Again, out of all top operating systems, Windows is giving you the most support.
Hardware hasn’t changed in the way you think it has for quite a while. For shits i span up a compatability check on my fifteen year old file server and it qualifies for w10.
The big wank issue with win10/11 is microsoft trying to enforce corporate hardware requirements on home users. Mostly so they can start trying to garden wall their shit.
I don’t think it’s unreasonable to stop supporting 7 years old hardware.
I think that it is; gimme a decade or so then we talk. Specially when feature-wise W11 is basically W10.
How gracious of them
