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irelephant [he/him]🍭 to 196@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish • 3 months ago

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  • Björn Tantau
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    120•3 months ago

    Ø - The Norwegian umlaut version of O.

    • @ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org
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      53•3 months ago

      ⌀ U+2300 DIAMETER SIGN

    • @Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world
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      45•3 months ago

      Actually æ, ø, and å are regarded as separate letters in the Norwegian alphabet

      Æ - like the a in cat

      Ø - like the u in turn

      Å- like the aw in paw

      Here’s a handy song about it

      • @RandomVideos@programming.dev
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        15•3 months ago

        Translation to a language that has reasonable pronunciation (romanian):

        Æ = a

        Ø = ă

        Å = â

      • @daggermoon@lemmy.world
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        10•3 months ago

        Which language is the best: Norwegian, Finnish, Swedish, or Danish?

        • @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          3 months ago

          Danish. Swedish and Norwegian are just failed attempts at speaking Danish, proving once and for all that Norwegians have better language skills since their attempts are closer.*

          Finnish is mainly good for swearing away bears and complaining about a lack of saunas.

          *(Jk, in case there’s any doubt)

          • @ByteJunk@lemmy.world
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            2•3 months ago

            OMG I feel sorry for that poor bear…

        • @Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world
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          13•3 months ago

          Best for what purpose? Norwegian is best for understanding Swedish and Danish (Swedes have more difficulty understanding Danish than Norwegians do) Swedish and Norwegian are essentially a dialectical continuum.

          Oslo dialect is heavily influenced by danish because back in the day if Norwegians wanted a decent education they went to Denmark. The more commonly used written form of Norwegian (bokmål) is still very similar to Danish (only as it’s written though, danish pronunciation is fucked up). The other form (nynorsk) was created from several rural dialects as part of a nationalism movement and more closely resembles Swedish (not in terms of spelling but pronunciation) it’s not as close as bokmål is to Danish though.

          Finnish is a completely different language family but is very similar to kven which is spoken by very few people on the Northern coast of Norway. It’s a nice sounding language though and a good way to sound like you’re going to stab someone.

          The correct language is the one that is spoken in the country you’re most interested in. I live in Norway so for my purposes Norwegian is obviously best. And I don’t need to revert to speaking English in Sweden or (most of) Denmark, which is nice.

          If I had to learn a second north European language, I’d choose either northern Sami, Faroese, Icelandic, or Greenlandic.

          • @ryedaft@sh.itjust.works
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            6•3 months ago

            Finland and Türkiye: We’re going to create a script that unambiguously follows the phonemes of the language so any word you can read you can say.

            Norway: Hold my “I am going to create a script that is so Swedish chef noises” Sue Sylvester meme

          • @untorquer@lemmy.world
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            3 months ago

            Was going to say if you speak Norwegian you can converse and read in Denmark and it’s seamless.

            Nynorsk is interesting. Dialects are hard.

            • @Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world
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              2•3 months ago

              They only teach bokmål in the language courses for foreigners, even if you live in a nynorsk area. Until relatively recently school children were expected to learn both and if you were expected to reply to letters/emails in the same language as they were written in. That doesn’t happen as much now.

          • @daggermoon@lemmy.world
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            1•3 months ago

            I guess I’m most interested in Finland. Hypothetically, If I were to come into possession of an obscene amount of cash I would immigrate there asap. Norway would be a close second however, followed by Germany in third.

            • @Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world
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              2•3 months ago

              The thing i like about the Finns is that most of them spend their first year sleeping in a cardboard box.

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maternity_package

              • @daggermoon@lemmy.world
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                1•3 months ago

                That’s pretty rad actually.

                • @Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world
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                  1•3 months ago

                  They ought to have that in Norway. But Norwegian businesses are parasitic on parents.

        • @hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          6•3 months ago

          Finnish, though I may be biased. We have the best curses (English swear words are soo boring and really don’t have the same power.) and it’s so easy to just make up bew words.

        • @lugal@sopuli.xyz
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          5•3 months ago

          Danish is Swedish without opening your mouth and if it’s half open, you get Norwegian

        • @TexasDrunk@lemmy.world
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          2•3 months ago

          1000004340

        • @samus12345@lemm.ee
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          2•3 months ago

          Clearly Icelandic is best.

        • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝
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          2•3 months ago

          Finnish, hands down

          • @Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world
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            5•3 months ago

            Perkele

        • @thebestaquaman@lemmy.world
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          2•3 months ago

          We all agree regarding where Danish sits: https://youtu.be/ykj3Kpm3O0g?feature=shared

      • Synapse
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        4•3 months ago

        French has à, â, é, è, ê, ë, ï, ô, œ, but we don’t count them as extra letters. We should!

        • @thebestaquaman@lemmy.world
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          3•3 months ago

          I can see the first 8 being counted as just “letter with an accent”, but what about the last one? How can that not be its own letter? It’s a whole new symbol not found in the “base” alphabet ffs. You should definitely count at least that one - because size matters

    • @jabathekek@sopuli.xyz
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      13•3 months ago

      Øh nø

    • @rustyfish@lemmy.world
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      10•3 months ago

      You mean like the German Ö?

    • @folekaule@lemmy.world
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      8•3 months ago

      This is why, as a Norwegian programmer, I slash my 0s with a backlash and my Øs with a forward slash.

    • @bobs_monkey@lemm.ee
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      6•3 months ago

      We also use that to designate phasing in the electrical world.

    • @lugal@sopuli.xyz
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      6•3 months ago

      We should use dashed letter O to distinguish it from the Norwegian umlaut

      • @untorquer@lemmy.world
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        2•3 months ago

        Just use a proper typeface.

        • @lugal@sopuli.xyz
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          2•3 months ago

          0k

    • @untorquer@lemmy.world
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      3•3 months ago

      Oh eh… Kunne du bruke det ikke i navnet ditt eller?

    • @Prandom_returns@lemm.ee
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      1•3 months ago

      deleted by creator

  • @gibmiser@lemmy.world
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    90•3 months ago

    Ahhh ahhhh ahhhhhhhhh I hate it

    • @SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml
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      3 months ago

      Whyyyy does humanity do this to itself

  • @VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    40•3 months ago

    My genuine reaction to that information:

    • @Devorlon@lemmy.zip
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      5•3 months ago

      ∅, with a slash through it!!!

  • @SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip
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    35•3 months ago

    The slashed zero is the empty set, and the slashed O is literally nothing cause screw the slashed O

    • @thebestaquaman@lemmy.world
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      14•3 months ago

      All my guys love the Ø! We Even have the Ååhh. Jut let me know if that makes you Æææh!

      Relevant: https://youtu.be/f488uJAQgmw?feature=shared

      • Pelicanen
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        4•3 months ago

        I was hoping it was gonna be that video! One of the few times I will agree that size matters.

    • Kogasa
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      Empty set is ∅, slashed zero is 0︀ (if your browser decides to render the unicode variant) or 0︀ in html

      Learn the difference, it could save your life!

      (It could not actually save your life)

  • Dr. Bob
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    32•3 months ago

    Dad was a programmer on IBM 700/7000 series. He always slashed the letter O. Years later in programming people were slashing zeroes and I was mighty confused. Some greybeard explained it eventually.

    • @gift_of_gab@lemmy.world
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      13•3 months ago

      Years later in programming people were slashing zeroes and I was mighty confused. Some greybeard explained it eventually.

      As someone who slashes their zeroes, ouch.

      • Dr. Bob
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        6•3 months ago

        Well it was someone else who spent most of their career with FØRTRAN punchcards. By the time I was learning BASIC in the 1980s it had moved to the zero.

      • @tourist@lemmy.world
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        /0

        edit: what was that meant to do

  • @finkrat@lemmy.world
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    16•3 months ago

    When your language and numerical project managers don’t talk to each other

  • @SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world
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    16•3 months ago

    θØΦ⦰θ

  • @SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world
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    15•3 months ago

    Not the empty set?

  • @tibi@lemmy.world
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    13•3 months ago

    Sø I shøuld slash all my Øs sø they can be distinguished from 0. Gøt it.

    • @Hupf@feddit.org
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      3•3 months ago

      Including the majestic møøse

  • @lemming741@lemmy.world
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    It gets better

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ø_(disambiguation)

    • @VerifiedSource@sh.itjust.works
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      2•3 months ago

      ø

  • Kaari
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    9•3 months ago

    “The slash as a designator! Why that is brilliant…” - Dr.Klein

  • @Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net
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    9•3 months ago

    How it feels to be autistic navigating social rules.

  • @daggermoon@lemmy.world
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    9•3 months ago

    Ø is an album by Underoath

    • @orize@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      4•3 months ago

      And a damn good one

  • @needanke@feddit.org
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    7•3 months ago

    ∅ (empty set)

    • Draconic NEO
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      2•2 months ago

      And Also Agender. At least I use it for Agender. It’s the perfect symbol for Agenderness.

      • @needanke@feddit.org
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        Fitting, I feel like agender is just the empty set of genders.

        • Draconic NEO
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          1•2 months ago

          And an empty set in terms of things related to it as a gender category, or gender stereotype.

  • @chwilson@lemmy.world
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    6•3 months ago

    disambigruleation

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