https://archive.ph/v8Vlf

The conservatives of incoming chancellor Friedrich Merz and their likely center-left coalition partner, the Social Democratic Party (SPD), have agreed to demand the bloc withhold funds and suspend voting rights from countries that violate key principles such as the rule of law, according to a draft coalition agreement seen by POLITICO.

While Hungary wasn’t mentioned by name, the draft agreement is clearly referring to the EU’s worst offender, which for years has been accused of taking a wrecking ball to democratic norms, curtailing the freedom of the press and restricting the independence of judges.

  • @letsgo@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    313 hours ago

    Well it was only a matter of time. Keep voting in Poo-tin’s interests and the shit will inevitably hit the Orfán.

  • de'Oliveira
    link
    fedilink
    English
    30
    edit-2
    2 days ago

    EU really needs a way to kick out members. Hungary doesn’t care about EU.

    • @Kornblumenratte@feddit.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      212 hours ago

      Nah – withdrawing voting rights and funding suffices. Perhaps remove the right for citizens to freely move within the EU as well. You need sticks and carrots, not only sticks.

    • @Akasazh@feddit.nl
      link
      fedilink
      English
      222 days ago

      They care about the EU money quite a lot, not so much the ideology.

      I stand by the training that if a county would fall below the standards that are required to enter the EU, procedures should start to expell them.

      • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝
        link
        fedilink
        English
        213 hours ago

        That’s all well and good, but the Geman car manufacturing industry liked the whole setup before Orbán became a problem. You are not fighting against Hungarians here, you are fighting European big business, especially German big business.

        If you are looking for the receipts for how this went so wrong, look no further than Angela Merkel.

        Volkswagen would have to get all their engines through customs if Hungary got kicked out, and they have a bigger say in EU policy than you, or the whole of the NL for that matter. It’s not good that this is like this, but we are all victims here.

        Except at least Budapest has been protesting this for 15 years, while the wider EU populace has been content for their money to get stolen to oppress Hungary. Most of Hungary is more on board with European values than the Netherlands by the way.

      • de'Oliveira
        link
        fedilink
        English
        142 days ago

        If Hungary is kicked out, maybe the Hungarian people will finally turn on Orban.

        • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝
          link
          fedilink
          English
          213 hours ago

          Hungarian people in general have already turned on Orbán, mostly because the infinite money the EU was funding his propaganda machine with was disturbed.

          Orbán has broken down Hungarian society with the help of Merkel in exchange for the complete destruction of Hungarian worker’s protections to help the German car industry. The Hungarian people are victims here, the perpetrator is Orbán, but the weapon was all EU funded due to German diplomacy.

    • atro_city
      link
      fedilink
      42 days ago

      Best they can do right now is make their presence in the EU hell with whatever measures they have. Either they’ll start acting right or they’ll fucking leave. Hungary’s residents don’t seem to want to get rid of Orban or his crew. They have a chance in 2026 with Peter Magyar, but my expectations are very low.

      • lime!
        link
        fedilink
        English
        42 days ago

        wait is he really named “Peter Hungarian”?

          • lime!
            link
            fedilink
            English
            52 days ago

            yeah, it’s the hungarian word for the hungarian language. it could be one of those situations where the actual meaning is “the language” or something, hungarian is a very unique language.

              • lime!
                link
                fedilink
                English
                21 day ago

                like in english? i don’t think i follow

                • @blueridge@feddit.nu
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  21 day ago

                  It means both as in both Hungarian the nationality and Hungarian the language?

                  Like in English: “The English speak English”.

  • GuGu
    link
    fedilink
    English
    102 days ago

    May a thousand steel fists rain down upon him.

  • @cageythree@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    42 days ago

    Took me a while not to read that as

    The time has come to punish Orbán (and) Germany’s next(, some) government says

  • @kokolowlander@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    12 days ago

    What realistially can EU and Germany do?

    EU is already withholding funding, although they have to pay Hungary every time they have to pass something in EU.

    Do they even have the vote to suspend voting rights when they have Slovak PM going crazy as well?

    • @letsgo@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      113 hours ago

      If Orbán gets “sanctioned” maybe Slovakia will start to think twice about biting the hand that feeds it. And if they also continue to push the Russian agenda then we’ll have an established protocol to deal with them.