• @BlueMagma@sh.itjust.works
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    I was worried so I looked for the source of the information, it seems to be from 'Washington State University" from their website they say it concerns “Commercial honey bee colony”, so it might not be all bees (I don’t know enough to say what the difference is exactly), they say “60 to 70% losses” (not 80), and they also say “Over the past decade, annual losses have typically ranged between 40 and 50%.”, so it is probably worrying but not as much as the CBS article was making it seem.

    Source: https://news.wsu.edu/news/2025/03/25/honey-bee-colony-declines-grow-as-wsu-researchers-work-to-fight-losses/

      • @chaogomu@lemmy.world
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        116 days ago

        Part of the panicking should be wild bees. They’re dying at accelerated rates.

        We also know why, commercial bee keeping is part of it, as is hobbies bee keeping.

        And pesticides… and monoculture farming.

      • @BlueMagma@sh.itjust.works
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        26 days ago

        I don’t know whether you were satiric or not, but it feels like it, hard to tell on a text medium. No hard feelings either way 😄

        If you were “mocking my post in a satiric way”: I didn’t mean to say that nothing should be done or that it was not a reason to worry. I actually believe we should protect our ecosystems, but I think we need accurate data and this kind of posts, even if they convey the “right” message according to me, are misleading and create false information about what is going on. I truly believe we should try to avoid doing this.

    • dantheclamman
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      56 days ago

      This story is about domesticated honeybees, which have been declining for decades due to Colony Collapse Disorder and other stressors. Native North American bees are in their own long-term decline, with 1 in 4 species at risk of extinction. However, domesticated honeybees are tremendously important for the pollination and yield of many crops important to humans, and this population drop, thought to be the largest annual losses seen, should be considered in the context of the longer decline, and the possibility that we could hit a tipping point when pollination, and a crucial pillar of our food system, could fail.

  • it’s the European honey bee that’s dying in unprecedented numbers

    but it’s not all bees

    European honey bees are the easy button for farmers but they are going to have to decide if pesticide is more important or not

    this nobody knows what’s happening is bullshit provided by the likes of the Monsanto and other chemical companies

    • @Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      237 days ago

      They (save for a smarter minority) are 100% gonna decide that pesticides are more important. Until they learn they aren’t, but it will be too late.

          • AugustWest
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            117 days ago

            I guess I am going to be that guy…

            Roundup is a pesticide. It is an herbicide, but it also is a pesticide. As are insecticides, fungicides, etc. Pesticide is the catch all, herbicide is the descriptive.

      • @Dozzi92@lemmy.world
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        47 days ago

        Say what you will about RFK, but he’s broken clock right on a couple of issues, pesticides being one of them. Sure, maybe his rationale isn’t right, but his end game may be a benefit. Unfortunately it’s at odds with Trump’s complete destruction of regulation, but he (RFK) seems to be chugging along. I think making America healthy is good; I don’t think pesticides or ultra processed foods make kids transgender.

        • Schadrach
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          16 days ago

          I don’t think pesticides or ultra processed foods make kids transgender.

          Of course not. That requires being infected by a trans first - they work under vampire rules which is why we need to keep trans and children away from each other! /s

    • Redex
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      97 days ago

      I’m not too up to date with this story, but haven’t pesticides been used for forever now? Why would the suddenly cause a 80% drop in population?

      • @null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        177 days ago

        I think bee populations are under threat from pesticides, habitat reduction, disease, climate change, nutrition, et cetera.

        Of that list, pesticides are probably the easiest to solve.

      • @0tan0d@lemmy.world
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        It’s not the same pesticides year over year. My bet is some MBA pushed a tweak to the formula for short term gains.

        resist

      • neonicotinoids were invited in the 1980s and it’s been recently understood that it’s like a forever chemical. it will get into the dirt and go through the plants and pass on through pollen

    • @Flemmy@lemm.ee
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      Finedust from traffic, mircoplastics, insecticides, GMO infertile weeds… etc. Bayer as well.

      • @Colloidal@programming.dev
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        77 days ago

        Haven’t you heard? Bayer and Monsanto are one. And Dow and Dupont have fused too. Together, Bayer-Monsanto and Dow-Dupont control over 60% of all grain seed production in the world. All your wheat, corn, rice… it’s all in the hands of these 2 companies.

  • @bitjunkie@lemmy.world
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    657 days ago

    That’s $15 billion worth of crops.

    They just can’t break out of that frame, even when the topic is EVERY LIVING THING FUCKING STARVING TO DEATH.

  • @F_OFF_Reddit@lemmy.world
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    336 days ago

    Imma go out on a limb here and blame late stage Capitalism and some sort of pesticide or whatever that could solve the problem if it costed 5 cents more but the solution is to save that money and let the bees die.

    Imma take my chances on that.

    • Phil Ociraptor
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      46 days ago

      there’s a crazy scene in the documentary More Than Honey where they compare beekeepers with US Almond Farm pollenators. It’s all about money and it’s sickening.

      • @slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org
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        26 days ago

        I was gonna quote the documentary too. My favourite scene was when they pollinated by hand and said: who’s better at pollinating? Humans or bees? It’s definitely not humans.

    • @bigcow@lemm.ee
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      86 days ago

      I agree it does mention hundreds of millions but is confusing because…Shook said. “If we lose 80% of our bees every year,…” Not very clear in the article on exactly what percentage of the bee population died.

  • MochiGoesMeow
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    297 days ago

    Care about the environment? Great me too. Thats why im asking ya’ll to sign up for the General strike.

    Generalstrikeus.com

    Share it with your family, friends, social media.

      • AutistoMephisto
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        26 days ago

        As one stuck in Cheetoland, I deeply apologize for what he’s doing despite the efforts that had been undertaken to stop him and if he does end up attempting to annex your nation, I want you to know I preemptively surrender and defect to the Canadian Armed Forces.

  • @Matriks404@lemmy.world
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    307 days ago

    The longer I live the more I see modern civilization collapse inevitable and happening in the relatively near future.

    How the fuck do you even prepare for something like that?

    • @Nalivai@lemmy.world
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      It does, but the problem everyone’s talking about isn’t about wild bees, it’s about farming bees. Monospeecies of non-native bees pollinating monoculture of probably corn. They are dying, but only because they’re basically kept in bees analogue of factory farming conditions.
      Wild pollinators are fine (well, as fine as any wild species can be in our world, so not really, but at least not worse than others)

  • @Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Bees have been under assault for a while.

    It’s hive mites. The Varroa mite is going to wipe out all bees from the planet. And there’s not a damn thing we can do about it.

    Source: talked to a beekeeper.

  • @riodoro1@lemmy.world
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    LETS KEEP PUMPING CAPITALISM UP

    NEW IPHONE WITH AI LETS GOOOOO

    Sorry for getting all excited, it’s just we don’t have much time.

  • Dropper-Post
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    96 days ago

    well if that is the case, humans can take pollinator job roles when AI will take their excel jobs.

  • THCDenton
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    86 days ago

    At least i saved one from my dogs water bowl yesterday 🤷‍♀️

  • @Ghosthacked@lemm.ee
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    157 days ago

    Shame. The US is a beautiful country and psycho cult rednecks have let deregulation ruin such beautiful wilderness.