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Probably a good thing, the US sucked at it anyway. Ukraine was going to be forced to concede so much… Art of the Deal strikes again.
Nah, Trump got what he wanted, the minerals deal. Now he can keep sanctions on China for longer while we strip mine Ukraine for rare earth minerals.
Lol, we aren’t going to be mining anything. Rare earth minerals aren’t rare because they’re only located in isolated places, they’re rare because they are only present in small amounts when mining other materials.
The hard part is the refining of rare earth minerals because it requires large investments in refineries to separate the materials and consolidate them. Infrastructure that Ukraine or America haven’t invested in.
The minerals deal is just something that trump can point to as a “win” when in reality it’s not worth anything. Just like everything this administration does, it’s nothing but smoke and mirrors.
In that case, looks like Zelenskyy had the cards.
Ukraine doesn’t even have significant rare earth deposits. Nothing worth mining.
However, those aren’t the only thing in the deal. Bunch of other minerals are in there, and oil and natural gas.
I’m aware, but they’re also unfortunately rare in the US, and we need batteries if we don’t maintain a good trade relationship with China.
America actually has plenty of rare earth deposits, it’s just not profitable to mine them and then build facilities to refine them.
Bro the US isn’t going to mine shit in an active war zone. The mineral deal might be beneficial if peace is reached but not before that.
Typical Trump deal: nothing substantial, but he loudly claims credit for it anyway.
If peace is reached and maintained. If Russia doesn’t get all of Ukraine, how long is it going to be until they invade again? No one is going to want to invest in building a mine with that hanging over it.
Doesn’t really matter. Trump got a deal. In Donnie’s diseased mind, it doesn’t matter what it says, only that it exists.
It all makes sense when you realize he’s a trust-fund idiot cosplaying as a businessman.
It’s going to take years if not decades to setup the full supply chain off that deal, he’ll likely be dead by then and China will be laughing the whole time.
Honestly, from everything I’ve seen so far, the new mineral deal seems pretty good and fair.
That depends on the deal actually being followed.
Trump has zero intention of following through on any deal he makes, if he finds another option that is more beneficial to himself and himself alone, he will reneg on the deal in a microsecond.
While insulting the person that originally made the deal (himself)
Yeah. If it’s a fair deal, Trump won’t stick to it.
Ironically, that might be the most useful contribution to eventual peace in Ukraine the US has made for some time now.
Thanks, I guess.
So much for ending the war in one day.
Well, at least the US did remove a giant obstacle to a lasting peace from the war - Trump.
You should known that our beloved pumpkin pie is working directly with the back of the future crew to locate the actual dolorian used for the films. With the vast plutonium reserves they will send Elon back in time to the moment Putin was borne. He will the proceed to choke that sonobabich: okay let’s see this happening:
88mph.
The vehicle’s flux capacitor is activated.
The vehicle is at its maximum hyperbolic pressure MHP. That’s when the hyperbolae regarding the vehicle is at Ludicrous hypervelocity.
The tire flames are now converging into the time flux redundonator.
And he’s gone! The sonobabich did it!OK now we switch over to the time Harper lapse camera. Let’s see Elon locate and choke baby putin. Wait a minute! Is he breast feeding putin? Holy! That is not a breast! No! The humanity! And putin is actually just Elon sucking on his own. Why didn’t we see it?!!
We must send a second dolorian back in time to stop the first dolorian!
Another promise broken. What a loser.
End the war before even taking office. Kept moving the bar, then eventually just pivoted and pretended there was no bar.
Just gotta stop testing, ya know?
There’s no hurricanes if there’s no NOAA. There’s no bird flu if there’s no CDC.
Lmao
The DealMaker Suivant
BLOTUS
L for love!
Once again demonstrating how unreliable the American government has become.
It will be a very long time before the international community trusts America.
Give it a century
Username checks out
Or millenia, if at all…
The international community should think of the US as an adversary like Russia or North Korea because that is what it is now.
No, think of the worlds far right sympathizers like that, not all US citizens want this bullshit I sure as shit don’t.
Pariah state is the designation I have started to use.
“We got what we wanted I don’t give a fuck now” - Trump.
Fortunately for Ukraine, all they really got was a photo OP.
What did Trump want / get out of it?
What they have basically done is mug a rape victim.
Good, the US can fuck right off. Trump is a nincompoop as are his followers. No way they’d be capable of solving a geopolitical conflict.
hey look it’s almost like Donnie has no idea what to do about anything
1 Day
This is not bad news, well for putin it is IMO.
And with the US-Ukraine Ressource Deal being singed too. So they bascically Held Ukraine at gunpoint Dekanding all their remaining Ressources while Russia raped them. The US is no longer trustworthy. They now sit Back, while Europe will have to steer the War Into a favorable direction, b/c they have to. If Russia eins or loses does Not Matter anymore for US, b/c they will benefit either way.
The US is no longer trustworthy.
And it will take a lot of time and effort from the Americans to regain the trust of the international community.
I think the mineral deal is for future resources in unoccupied territory. If Russia wins US gets nothing right? So they can’t really fully sit back. But I’ll admit maybe I’m understanding wrong. The real key is that Trump got bored honestly.
Except Trump is a puppet of Putins, to some degree. So he would Not Care about Russia occupiying Ukraine in any way, because He will still get His Deal. And in the mean time, Europe will continue to buy American Arms, making him and His größter Friends rich in the process. I would Not be surprised If He Starts selling weapons to both Sides.
Not exactly, it’s resources in exchange for aid going forward in the form of arms.
This was pretty much what Michael Kofman predicted was going to happen months ago. As long as Russia feels that they can prevail militarily and is making maximalist demands based on that, and Ukraine is unwilling to accept those terms, there’s not really much room for mutually-acceptable terms.
Even if they got something on paper, that’s not likely to translate to a durable peace.
If the US leadership weren’t idiots, they could have put pressure on Russia to get at least a ceasefire. Instead, they focused on bullying Ukraine.
I don’t know how much more pressure can be applied absent direct conflict between the US and Russia, which I don’t believe the US will do.
Almost all US-Russia trade is gone, so not much to take away in economic terms.
https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c4621.html
In 2021, the US imported $29.6 billion from Russia and exported $6.4 billion.
In 2024, the US imported $3 billion (90% gone) and exported $0.5 billion to Russia (92% gone).
It might be possible to pressure other countries not to trade with Russia via use of secondary sanctions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_largest_trading_partners_of_Russia
The top party there is China (who I don’t think that we’re in a position to compel to cut off from Russia).
There’s Belarus, which I doubt is going to be compelled to cut off trade from Russia given the state of affairs.
The other top countries are all EU members. I mean, we could try and put pressure on them, but theoretically they should be doing this themselves.
Like, I can understand criticism as to Trump’s interactions with Zelenskyy, but I don’t think that there’s some magic, easy-to-use lever to compel Russia that the White House has in reserve. Maybe weapon supplies to Ukraine are the most-influential left.
I agree that economic sanctions are nearly maxed out, but as you mention, they could provide more military aid. Instead, that was already delayed last year by Republicans, and recently even intelligence support was suspended, as Russia increased the bombing of civilians. Adding to this, most public quotes were about blaming Ukraine and trying to appease Putin, which significantly influenced how “brave” Russia acted.
The US is free to do with their resources as they please, but if they actually wanted to stop this war, they had the options to move towards to that. Instead the war went on for months without any positive results. The mineral deal can be a good step, but it seems to be the last one, so not sure it will be enough alone.
