Were you online before Facebook? It was mostly nerds in the 90s and half nerds in the 2000s. You came to a car show and are upset that people are talking about cars. You’re on Wall Street asking “what’s up with all the suits?”
I never understood this either. “Why are users of an aggressively open-source service so adamant about using open-source software?” Especially when Lemmy’s been around for years, so yeah it’s cultivated a majority Linux userbase.
Except most of them will never be “there” without support, but also because the commercial options have the resources to out develop them at every turn.
And the truth is, maybe it needs to be more about ideals. Not caring about them is why we are seeing the current trends we’re seeing: people put convenience above choosing to support something they believe in. That’s why Chromium is everything now. That’s why Windows is increasingly shitified and anti-competitve with no serious consequences. That’s why a significant number of people that opposed Spez are still on Reddit fulltime. If the average user was a bit more idealistic, maybe there’d actually be a movement to push back on these trends. But they don’t.
My legitimate theory is that the better the average quality of life is, the more people value practicality over ideals. As long as you can get up, drive to work, come home, and watch football/play CoD/whatever, people have very little incentive to care. Also we’re a bit more sane now. We’re a long way off from that Roman guy who made a “no weapons or you get executed” rule, accidentally walked into the forum with a knife, and stabbed himself to death right then and there.
Most open source adepts are practical, but most would prefer a tad of less perfect of free open source then perfect closed source.
For me, the main computer needs to be stable, the rest is for messing about with. I’m glad I found open source solutions for most issues. (apart from breaking open Android devices)
Man, I’m just here because I found spez’s reaction to criticism both sad and so disgustingly corporatist that I didn’t want to interact with his product anymore. But I don’t have strong opinions on that sort of thing. My internet usage is mostly just killing time between work and real life tasks. Mostly early morning while I’m just waiting for my Adderall to kick in and for it to get late enough in the morning to get started on stuff. This internet space is not a significant part of my life. But I do want my time here to be enjoyable and the weird way that people on here make subjective choices a major part of their personality and get aggressive to outsiders can be off-putting. I’m clearly not alone in this. A lot of people just want a place to casually read some interesting stuff on the internet without constantly being preached to about the moral necessity of specific computer environments everywhere you go. Enjoying it as a hobby or whatever is fine, but like, chill guys. There isn’t some Linux Hell we’ll end up in if we don’t convert before we all die.
There isn’t some Linux Hell we’ll end up in if we don’t convert before we all die.
There is, MS Windows. ;)
Just kidding. For most, it’s just fine to use closed source products, however, the most/earliest adopters of the fediverse are open source adepts. Accept their weirdness that brings you the free environment (ok, based on donations, but nothing is forced upon you). They put their spare time into the development and maintenance of the environment. They give free tips, either try it out or ignore them.
Just because the Fediverse is FOSS doesn’t mean we have to shill out to everything FOSS on every instance.
That is like claiming since the Fediverse runs on servers, we should all ditch our regular computers and phones and only connect over server hardware.
It is okay to like FOSS, but it is an other thing to keep bringing it up ad nauseam, especially if the topic isn’t even related. It only makes the Linux community look bad.
Then downvote them and move on, man. You’re complaining about people using the platform they believe in to talk about something else they believe in. They’re not doing anything wrong, and whether or not it annoys you is not anyon else’s concern but your own.
Were you online before Facebook? It was mostly nerds in the 90s and half nerds in the 2000s. You came to a car show and are upset that people are talking about cars. You’re on Wall Street asking “what’s up with all the suits?”
Literally no one is going to tone it down.
I never understood this either. “Why are users of an aggressively open-source service so adamant about using open-source software?” Especially when Lemmy’s been around for years, so yeah it’s cultivated a majority Linux userbase.
Same, when you’re so dead set against open source, why not stay at the commercial solutions?
It’a not about being against open source, it’s about putting practicality over ideals. Some software simply isn’t there yet.
Except most of them will never be “there” without support, but also because the commercial options have the resources to out develop them at every turn.
And the truth is, maybe it needs to be more about ideals. Not caring about them is why we are seeing the current trends we’re seeing: people put convenience above choosing to support something they believe in. That’s why Chromium is everything now. That’s why Windows is increasingly shitified and anti-competitve with no serious consequences. That’s why a significant number of people that opposed Spez are still on Reddit fulltime. If the average user was a bit more idealistic, maybe there’d actually be a movement to push back on these trends. But they don’t.
My legitimate theory is that the better the average quality of life is, the more people value practicality over ideals. As long as you can get up, drive to work, come home, and watch football/play CoD/whatever, people have very little incentive to care. Also we’re a bit more sane now. We’re a long way off from that Roman guy who made a “no weapons or you get executed” rule, accidentally walked into the forum with a knife, and stabbed himself to death right then and there.
Most open source adepts are practical, but most would prefer a tad of less perfect of free open source then perfect closed source.
For me, the main computer needs to be stable, the rest is for messing about with. I’m glad I found open source solutions for most issues. (apart from breaking open Android devices)
Man, I’m just here because I found spez’s reaction to criticism both sad and so disgustingly corporatist that I didn’t want to interact with his product anymore. But I don’t have strong opinions on that sort of thing. My internet usage is mostly just killing time between work and real life tasks. Mostly early morning while I’m just waiting for my Adderall to kick in and for it to get late enough in the morning to get started on stuff. This internet space is not a significant part of my life. But I do want my time here to be enjoyable and the weird way that people on here make subjective choices a major part of their personality and get aggressive to outsiders can be off-putting. I’m clearly not alone in this. A lot of people just want a place to casually read some interesting stuff on the internet without constantly being preached to about the moral necessity of specific computer environments everywhere you go. Enjoying it as a hobby or whatever is fine, but like, chill guys. There isn’t some Linux Hell we’ll end up in if we don’t convert before we all die.
There is, MS Windows. ;)
Just kidding. For most, it’s just fine to use closed source products, however, the most/earliest adopters of the fediverse are open source adepts. Accept their weirdness that brings you the free environment (ok, based on donations, but nothing is forced upon you). They put their spare time into the development and maintenance of the environment. They give free tips, either try it out or ignore them.
But this isn’t a Linux-centered instance.
Just because the Fediverse is FOSS doesn’t mean we have to shill out to everything FOSS on every instance.
That is like claiming since the Fediverse runs on servers, we should all ditch our regular computers and phones and only connect over server hardware.
It is okay to like FOSS, but it is an other thing to keep bringing it up ad nauseam, especially if the topic isn’t even related. It only makes the Linux community look bad.
Then downvote them and move on, man. You’re complaining about people using the platform they believe in to talk about something else they believe in. They’re not doing anything wrong, and whether or not it annoys you is not anyon else’s concern but your own.
That’s why there a voting system.
Your instance maybe, but some are, like programming.dev, and the way federation works is we can all talk to eachother.
Not everyone is on db0 either, but here I am talkin’.