That’s … not how reality works. Sure, a rich guy isn’t going to get it, but if you do something bad enough in Germany and run to the US, the US will ABSOLUTELY ship you back to Germany so that you can be under the jurisdiction of their laws. Even if you were a US citizen.
That’s kind of what is happening with Kim DotCom. He’s been in New Zealand for years and never set foot in the US, but he is accused of conspiring to distribute pirated material that belongs to American corporations. He supposedly broke US law, while in New Zealand, and has never been to the US.
I think that was violating multiple international copyright and software patent agreements (i.e. megaupload), not him violating some specific US Law. And he was going to be tried in the US, but he could have just as easily been tried in Germany or whatever. Unless you are referring to something more specific.
Nope, but my point is extradition treaties exist. It’s not up to me what the US or German governments ship people over for, but they can and will help each other to reach out past borders.
Ok sure. A Government can do whatever it wants in collaboration with another government. regardless of laws, rights, morality, or anything that can be enforced via violence. But I don’t really see that as a “gotcha” or something that you should bring up in normal conversation.
They aren’t ignoring laws to do it. It’s literally a legal agreement. This started as a comment about what laws people are subject to. If you cannot understand how pointing out that they legally reach out past their borders to make people subject to laws everywhere is relevant… You might need to work on reading comprehension.
So let me ask you directly. Am I, as a US Citizen, living in the US, and currently in the US, subject to German Laws?
To be clear I understand that extradiction treaty’s exist. But that only applies if I break German Law, while I’m in Germany, not in any other situation.
That’s … not how reality works. Sure, a rich guy isn’t going to get it, but if you do something bad enough in Germany and run to the US, the US will ABSOLUTELY ship you back to Germany so that you can be under the jurisdiction of their laws. Even if you were a US citizen.
So I can post something illegal in Germany on the Internet and you think that I should be extradited?
That’s kind of what is happening with Kim DotCom. He’s been in New Zealand for years and never set foot in the US, but he is accused of conspiring to distribute pirated material that belongs to American corporations. He supposedly broke US law, while in New Zealand, and has never been to the US.
I think that was violating multiple international copyright and software patent agreements (i.e. megaupload), not him violating some specific US Law. And he was going to be tried in the US, but he could have just as easily been tried in Germany or whatever. Unless you are referring to something more specific.
Nope, but my point is extradition treaties exist. It’s not up to me what the US or German governments ship people over for, but they can and will help each other to reach out past borders.
Ok sure. A Government can do whatever it wants in collaboration with another government. regardless of laws, rights, morality, or anything that can be enforced via violence. But I don’t really see that as a “gotcha” or something that you should bring up in normal conversation.
They aren’t ignoring laws to do it. It’s literally a legal agreement. This started as a comment about what laws people are subject to. If you cannot understand how pointing out that they legally reach out past their borders to make people subject to laws everywhere is relevant… You might need to work on reading comprehension.
So let me ask you directly. Am I, as a US Citizen, living in the US, and currently in the US, subject to German Laws? To be clear I understand that extradiction treaty’s exist. But that only applies if I break German Law, while I’m in Germany, not in any other situation.