• rivermonster
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    37 months ago

    We should be furious with Hamas for using them as shields. Though again, Hamas has majority support amongst residents in Gaza, so…

    Fighting in dense urban conditions like this, 18k is definitely an attempt to minimize civilian casualties. If they were intentionally causing them, they wouldn’t go in at all. They’d just kill magnitudes more (hundreds of thousands or millions) without risking soldiers. They easily have the firepower to do it.

    We should all condemn their elected terrorists for forcing the theater to be amongst civilians. It’s a war crime, co-location strip protections, and legitimized targeting places that would otherwise be protected by international law.

    • @filister@lemmy.world
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      147 months ago

      Ohhhh, furious with Hamas or with the IDF, who killed 3 shirtless people waving a white flag? Are you living in a parallel reality or are you so brainwashed?

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        37 months ago

        In an environment where that’s the standard tactic of Hamas, hide behind civilians, yeah, I understand the friendly fire. This is Hamas. They blew up their own hospital, hoping ppl like worldnews would blame Israel for it… and they did.

        If you think that while hiding amongst civilians or while keeping hostages they aren’t trained to try and appear like innocents, then I don’t know how to help you. It’s literally their main tactic.

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            7 months ago

            I too would resort to name calling with a factually bankrupt argument and poor reasoning skills. Well done!

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              7 months ago

              Poor reasoning skills? Sorry but even IDF admitted their fuck-up and said that it was against their rules of disengagement, while you still pretend that they did nothing wrong. So who’s morally bankrupt here? You who is refusing to admit the wrongdoings of your own people even when presented with clear undisputed facts or me?

              • rivermonster
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                27 months ago

                They admit wrongdoing because they’re not intentionally targeting civilians.

                To support your false narrative/pro-hamas propaganda, you’re attempting to conflate an accident during wartime as intentionally targeting civilians. It’s really not okay, and I am concerned for you.

                You don’t know who “my people” are, but I see the attempt to start framing more personal attacks, and intent to libel further, and I get that you’ve embarrassed yourself multiple times and shown your true colors. You have my pity.

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                  7 months ago

                  Ah yes, defending basic human rights is called nowadays pro-Hamas, thanks for enlightening me.

                  You should see how many people agree with your statements and how many with mine and perhaps you should start questioning your position.

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            7 months ago

            Did you read your own link? It was a pre-october 7th poll. Since then support for Hamas has skyrocketed according to more recent polling, as has support for the October 7th attack.

            So, the catalyst for the new spike in approval appears to be war crimes and slaughter of civilians in Israel (aka Oct 7th).

            Thank you, I will archive this for future reference as it makes my point even more clearly.

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                7 months ago

                I have very little concern about the evaluation of the “worthiness of my claims” by someone who posts sources that contradict their own claims.

                According to the poll results, some 59% of respondents indicated that they “extremely support” Hamas’ actions on Oct. 7, with another 16% saying that they “somewhat support” them.

                Those figures are roughly in line with overall support for Hamas, with the poll finding that a cumulative 76% of respondents hold either a “very positive” or “somewhat positive” view of the group when asked to rank their support for a list of Palestinian political parties.

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/palestinian-poll-finds-strong-support-for-hamas-oct-7-attacks-river-to-the-sea-state/ar-AA1k6mEx

                Lots of sources have reported on it. If you don’t like that one you can find many more.

                Being a terrorist sympathizer is bad. You should change.