• hauiOPEnglish
    1•9 months ago

    Wait, you‘re starting with in group out group and end with pathologizing autism? That makes no sense.

    Feel free to link sources but this is the first time I hear of this. Also dont pathologize NDs. We are not disordered, just different. Having pathological issues like learning disability or trouble speaking can be part of the experience but being ND isnt a pathology in itself. That is ableist imo.

      • hauiOPEnglish
        1•9 months ago

        Whatever you think mate. This isnt the group to dump on autistic folks. Feel free to learn and ask questions.

          • hauiOPEnglish
            2•9 months ago

            Again, feel free to ask how we see this and maybe learn to view differences as differences and challenges as challenges instead of pathologizing it all.

            I for example have severe problems with being misunderstood due to my way of thinking. It is not that my thinking is pathological but the fact that others think different that makes life hard for me.

            This has caused people to beat me up IRL and has made me millions with companies I created. Sure, you can choose to say „OMG autism!“ or you can say „Well, the person might need more help than others but might have unexpected qualities.“

            Other challenges for me are low pain threshold, high frequency sound sensitivity, inability to voice dissent if stressed, very monotropistic.

            But they can be managed. If we pathologize people for something as broad as autism, we wont integrate them into society ever.

              • hauiOPEnglish
                1•9 months ago

                Okay listen, I am willing to discuss with you but you need to stop making these unsupported claims. Either bring sources for them or stop.

                There is no such thing as mild autism. Guessing from your writing style, you might have outdated experience/information and are putting stuff together that doesnt belong. There are many different challenges and differences that dont all have to be present. Most likely, you had the absolute worst cases but it is common knowledge that only the harshest cases have neen diagnosed for decades and in specific areas.

                Not everyone who can wipe their own butt has apergers and not everyone who has autism is therefore unable to live their life without constant support. That is just false.

                If you want to discuss you need to change your attitude to a more open minded approach so we can check where our experiences diverge. I‘m not going on in this „competition of witts“ that this is turning into.

                I read your comment history and you usually seem quite levelheaded (except one very weird encounter). I therefore assume you might have deep seated hurt or presumtions (internalized ableism for example) which I dont fault you for but it would help you to get back to a discussion at the same level.