The 2 best features that I love and cannot live without anymore are having a rolling release that doesn’t break every single time I try to do a distro upgrade, and the AUR. I use Arch btw.
Preach. (Though I haven’t used pure Arch in a long time.)
Rolling distros have been all I’ve run for at least the past 6 or 7 years, and I essentially never do a fresh install anymore unless I get new hardware. It’s a lovely, low maintenance place to be, and I’ve always got fresh versions of all the software I use.
I have a roughly 13 year old install that I’ve moved through the transition to /usr/ and from sysv to systemd. Its my oldest install. I run almost everything except suse as a systems admin.
As a way to run Linux, I find arch one of the nicest. Rolling release, unmodified packages direct from the dev, unopinionated systems management, arch build system for any packages you want to compile, arch Linux archive that can be used for snapshotting or locking your rolling release, and AUR.
It’s a completely different way to manage and build an OS that no one else is really doing. I find team ‘I use arch btw’ to be extremely annoying but at the end of the day, the arch tooling for building a Linux ypunlike to use means that people are naturally going to want to tell you they built something they find enjoyable to use. That’s not really something a lot of people say about most OSs.
I have a range of issues and annoyances with most major OS, ranging from i cant use this to i wish this worked. Windows, MacOS, Ubuntu/deb flavors, redhat/fedora flavors, openwrt, alpine and other busybox flavors, iOS, Android, Graphine. All have things that mostly work but I’m always working around something.
And finding accurate documentation for issues on distros that have different configuration release to release is a pain, deb, Ubuntu and redhat flavors are especially egregious. I don’t really care how to do this on RH6 or Ubuntu 11, lol, I want docs for the current version.
It’s a completely different way to manage and build an OS that no one else is really doing. I find team ‘I use arch btw’ to be extremely annoying but at the end of the day, the arch tooling for building a Linux ypunlike to use means that people are naturally going to want to tell you they built something they find enjoyable to use. That’s not really something a lot of people say about most OSs.
I wanted to try to find a way to say this in reply to some of the other comments, but I wasn’t sure I could communicate it effectively without just sounding like I was living up to the meme. You did a better job than I would have. :)
I have a roughly 13 year old install that I’ve moved through the transition to /usr/ and from sysv to systemd.
Whew! I’m aware of both those transitions, and was an arch user during one of them, but that’s super impressive. My oldest install is from 2020, endeavouros on a headless media server in my basement. Not even close!
Yeah, I that nk a lot of people ‘get it’ but can’t quite explain it. So they tell you they use arch and they they are excited about it.
I’m a pro, I’ve used basically every type of Linuxevwr made. Ive built and run linux from wcratch multiole times, as a lewrning experience, a teaching experience and even protypes for production systrms. I understand the packaging philosophies, I understand the opinionated administration decisions. I’m subscribed to most major distro mailing lists and i understand the political motivations that drive various teams to the different technical decisions.
Arch isn’t for everyone. And I’m totally fine with that. But it is perfect for people who want to build something with well crafted and unopinionated tooling. Of everyone ‘got’ arch they’d be failing at what they ate trying to do.
I switched from arch to opensuse tumbleweed, and even though I really like opensuse, arch was so much simpler to maintain, pacman is so much better than zypper. I disliked arch until I gave it a real try, but even though I’ve moved on for now on my main computer, arch is stil a really good distribution if you know how to set it up
You might want to have a look at endeavouros if you consider coming back. It does a lot of the heavy lifting for you. I’ve got arch, manjaro, antergos in my background as far as arch-based distros I’ve tried over the years, and have not had major problems with any of them, but endeavouros is an easy install with some conservative defaults. I had only a couple things to add on afterward to get it just how I wanted, you have a fair bit of control at install time, and once installed it’s just like maintaining an arch system.
Theres no real reason to manually install arch anymore though, archinstall script is easy, and works well. Yea you don’t get a fancy GUI, but there are plenty of options to choose at install time.
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What can I say? Everytime I get an update I get a little spike in dopamine. Arch is perfect for that
I also get a little spike in dopamine every time I don’t hurt an animal. That’s why I’m vegan too 😎 don’t even get me started on the “b12-less buzz” 😏
Sadly, those updates have diminishing returns for me. “Oh, yet another kernel update. Time to reboot again.”
“honey time for a kernel update and reboot”
“yes dear”
vegan btw
I just take a B complex vitamin each morning.
Yeah but then you miss out on the buzz (/s, referring to one of the symptoms of b12 deficiency “paresthesia in hands and feet” https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/vitamin-b12-deficiency-symptoms#pins-and-needles)
Guess I’m missing out!
The 2 best features that I love and cannot live without anymore are having a rolling release that doesn’t break every single time I try to do a distro upgrade, and the AUR. I use Arch btw.
Preach. (Though I haven’t used pure Arch in a long time.)
Rolling distros have been all I’ve run for at least the past 6 or 7 years, and I essentially never do a fresh install anymore unless I get new hardware. It’s a lovely, low maintenance place to be, and I’ve always got fresh versions of all the software I use.
I have a roughly 13 year old install that I’ve moved through the transition to /usr/ and from sysv to systemd. Its my oldest install. I run almost everything except suse as a systems admin.
As a way to run Linux, I find arch one of the nicest. Rolling release, unmodified packages direct from the dev, unopinionated systems management, arch build system for any packages you want to compile, arch Linux archive that can be used for snapshotting or locking your rolling release, and AUR.
It’s a completely different way to manage and build an OS that no one else is really doing. I find team ‘I use arch btw’ to be extremely annoying but at the end of the day, the arch tooling for building a Linux ypunlike to use means that people are naturally going to want to tell you they built something they find enjoyable to use. That’s not really something a lot of people say about most OSs.
I have a range of issues and annoyances with most major OS, ranging from i cant use this to i wish this worked. Windows, MacOS, Ubuntu/deb flavors, redhat/fedora flavors, openwrt, alpine and other busybox flavors, iOS, Android, Graphine. All have things that mostly work but I’m always working around something.
And finding accurate documentation for issues on distros that have different configuration release to release is a pain, deb, Ubuntu and redhat flavors are especially egregious. I don’t really care how to do this on RH6 or Ubuntu 11, lol, I want docs for the current version.
I wanted to try to find a way to say this in reply to some of the other comments, but I wasn’t sure I could communicate it effectively without just sounding like I was living up to the meme. You did a better job than I would have. :)
Whew! I’m aware of both those transitions, and was an arch user during one of them, but that’s super impressive. My oldest install is from 2020, endeavouros on a headless media server in my basement. Not even close!
Yeah, I that nk a lot of people ‘get it’ but can’t quite explain it. So they tell you they use arch and they they are excited about it.
I’m a pro, I’ve used basically every type of Linuxevwr made. Ive built and run linux from wcratch multiole times, as a lewrning experience, a teaching experience and even protypes for production systrms. I understand the packaging philosophies, I understand the opinionated administration decisions. I’m subscribed to most major distro mailing lists and i understand the political motivations that drive various teams to the different technical decisions.
Arch isn’t for everyone. And I’m totally fine with that. But it is perfect for people who want to build something with well crafted and unopinionated tooling. Of everyone ‘got’ arch they’d be failing at what they ate trying to do.
I switched from arch to opensuse tumbleweed, and even though I really like opensuse, arch was so much simpler to maintain, pacman is so much better than zypper. I disliked arch until I gave it a real try, but even though I’ve moved on for now on my main computer, arch is stil a really good distribution if you know how to set it up
You might want to have a look at endeavouros if you consider coming back. It does a lot of the heavy lifting for you. I’ve got arch, manjaro, antergos in my background as far as arch-based distros I’ve tried over the years, and have not had major problems with any of them, but endeavouros is an easy install with some conservative defaults. I had only a couple things to add on afterward to get it just how I wanted, you have a fair bit of control at install time, and once installed it’s just like maintaining an arch system.
No I have no trouble using arch and I still use it on my laptop, I just like opensuse because it’s fun so I use that on my main computer now
No worries. For me, the the fun of installing wore off after a couple times, so I have stuck with derivatives in recent years, but I get it. :)
Theres no real reason to manually install arch anymore though, archinstall script is easy, and works well. Yea you don’t get a fancy GUI, but there are plenty of options to choose at install time.
Except it’s completely different starting with you not having to spend a penny lmao
The upside is it’s a rolling release and very convenient btw.