Tl;dr Brave’s ceo (founder?) has donated to legislation to abolish gay marriage in California.
Aight, found this. Apparently the twat donated 1000 dollars to some proposal in California that would ban gay marriage.
Brave adds referral links to cryptocurrency urls.
You know? Honestly, I don’t care about that. They’re free and open source. They have to make SOME money somehow. Referrals cost the seller rather than the customer. While this does count as an advertisement, it is still very low profile. So uk…I don’t really mind that.
And I agree with you, if they were simply adding their referral link when you did not include one, nbd as long as that is going to support the free browser development. But if they were actually replacing your referral link with their own, that is some Mr. Burns shit for sure.
As far as I know, you are correct. My main browser is Librewolf and search engine is DDG. But I still use Brave when I rarely need a chromium browser or alternate search engine and he gains nothing from that.
As a piece of software, nothing. It’s an open source browser, and has an added bonus of having many privacy settings on by default. Not even firefox can say the same, it comes with telemetry, pocket and whatnot out of the box.
But there are some fair criticisms about the company and its administration. For example, there was an incident years ago when you signed on a crypto exchange, it would swap the sign on link for their own referral link. They claimed this was an error and quickly patched it, but I don’t buy it.
You’ll quickly notice that a lot of people on lemmy passionately hate brave. So expect a strong bias and, as a result, truths but overblown, half truths and misinformation. Don’t ignore what they say but double check them.
DDG is so bad in results though it makes not using a search engine seem like a solid alternative. I remember that research from a few months ago where they compared Google, Bing and DDG to do statistical analysis of if and how much Google’s search results have been getting worse in recent years.
Result:
Google did get worse.
However, Bing and DDG got worser, faster.
The real conclusion was that SEO spam has found ways to optimize that is no longer easy to exclude for search providers. Hence all search is getting shit pretty quickly.
A lot of people are complaining about Kagi using Brave as a backend but the alternatives aren’t much better. Both Google and Microsoft are BDS for example.
Fuck Brave and fucks its owner Brendan Eich.
Don’t promote that despicable company in any way.
Why what’s up with them? Asking cuz I don’t know.
Tl;dr Brave’s ceo (founder?) has donated to legislation to abolish gay marriage in California.
Brave adds referral links to cryptocurrency urls.
And it is apparently collecting money for YouTubers and not paying them (I did not fully read that article myself)
What an absolute fuck-head
Aight, found this. Apparently the twat donated 1000 dollars to some proposal in California that would ban gay marriage.
You know? Honestly, I don’t care about that. They’re free and open source. They have to make SOME money somehow. Referrals cost the seller rather than the customer. While this does count as an advertisement, it is still very low profile. So uk…I don’t really mind that.
I was reading another comment, apparently they were swapping their referral link in place of your own.
WAIT, WHAT?!!! That’s like cartoon level conning!
And I agree with you, if they were simply adding their referral link when you did not include one, nbd as long as that is going to support the free browser development. But if they were actually replacing your referral link with their own, that is some Mr. Burns shit for sure.
Didn’t they also click ads when you clicked a link, invisibly in the background?
that’s pretty much adnauseum except it doesn’t prentend
How does it even work?
Before displaying a page it searches the content and injects a referrer tag to the end of URLs that match certain things. This is done instantly.
E.g. If there’s a Binance URL on the page it’ll add something like
?ref=bravebrowserBinance will pick up that tag and give them money for any sign ups. Brave do this for any crypto services they have affiliate accounts with.
The gay marriage thing is not a good look now, but it’s worth noting that he’s not trying to abolish it today.
And the referral link things is also old and it was walked back after it was discovered.
Choose your tools based on your needs because everyone will have some politics you don’t like.
He may not be trying to abolish it, but he also, to my knowledge has not apologized, or done anything to show he has changed.
As far as I know, you are correct. My main browser is Librewolf and search engine is DDG. But I still use Brave when I rarely need a chromium browser or alternate search engine and he gains nothing from that.
As a piece of software, nothing. It’s an open source browser, and has an added bonus of having many privacy settings on by default. Not even firefox can say the same, it comes with telemetry, pocket and whatnot out of the box.
But there are some fair criticisms about the company and its administration. For example, there was an incident years ago when you signed on a crypto exchange, it would swap the sign on link for their own referral link. They claimed this was an error and quickly patched it, but I don’t buy it.
You’ll quickly notice that a lot of people on lemmy passionately hate brave. So expect a strong bias and, as a result, truths but overblown, half truths and misinformation. Don’t ignore what they say but double check them.
Read the links of the comment you are replying to.
that’s not reasonable. provide an argument with supporting links, not links without an argument
While I agree, but i tried Brave Search for a few weeks, and it seemed pretty good.
I wouldnt use Brave Browser, because Vivaldi is there (if you need Chromium.) But for a search engine which is free? DuckDuckGo maybe?
P.S. Kagi search is pretty good if you are willing to pay.
DDG is so bad in results though it makes not using a search engine seem like a solid alternative. I remember that research from a few months ago where they compared Google, Bing and DDG to do statistical analysis of if and how much Google’s search results have been getting worse in recent years.
Result:
The real conclusion was that SEO spam has found ways to optimize that is no longer easy to exclude for search providers. Hence all search is getting shit pretty quickly.
A lot of people are complaining about Kagi using Brave as a backend but the alternatives aren’t much better. Both Google and Microsoft are BDS for example.
Wait so the same guy owns brave is now firefoxes CEO?
No, the opposite
no. the old ceo owns brave.
And new CEO fired more devs. Again.
nuh uh