Many people are hesitant to identify as atheists because of the social stigma they may face, making it hard to pinpoint connections and differences among this group.
Fair point, but it’s not atheism, and shouldn’t be associated with it. It’s more like just teenaged angst that assumes the title for the purpose of appearing edgy.
Atheism has a bad enough rap on its own. It really doesn’t need people making it out to be something that it’s not. Especially something hateful.
You also have to keep in mind that most people, even atheists, only know the religion of their upbringing. Talking shit about something that you didn’t “grow in” is usually more difficult, as it requires a minimum research (or “research”)
Atheism isn’t about talking shit. That’s my point. If all you do is talk shit, you’re not an atheist. You’re just a hater that doesn’t believe in Christianity.
Again, lack of belief in a deity is he only requirement for being an atheist
If you don’t like that people bang on about Christianity because they live in the part of the world where that’s the dominant oppressor: deal with it, nobody cares that you don’t like it :)
I care. So there goes your nobody argument. Care to offer up any more inaccurate blanket statements?
The fact is- edgy wannabe atheists are giving the ideology a bad name. I’m not going to argue this with you. Deal with it, I don’t. Are that you don’t like it.
Lol, pretending like “nobody cares” is invalidated by YOU caring shows you don’t know how our language works or are doing it on purpose to be a prick
The fact is- edgy wannabe atheists are giving the ideology a bad name
I don’t disagree entirely. I also don’t care if it is or not
I’m not going to argue this with you. Deal with it, I don’t. Are that you don’t like it.
You’re the one who’s going to have to deal with t since you’re the one who’s butthurt.
Your pathetic attempt to turn my own words on me fails miserably when you’re the one who cares about the topic, not me. You come across as a petulant, whiny child who thinks copying the adults words means they win.
Atheism has a “bad name” insofar as it can be said to have because theists in general and abrahamic religions in particular tend to believe that disbelief is immoral in and of itself and that without fear of punishment or hope of reward users will be less moral. In fact disbelief is morally neutral and atheists are on average more moral people because real morality is virtually always rooted in empathy, guilt, and shame not fake rewards.
If I invite you to try a butt plug and you decide you don’t that sort of thing I shall not insist you try a range of sizes and shapes and shall instead accept your assertion that you don’t like the category of thing on your word as you are the foremost authority on you. If someone tells you they don’t believe that the universe has a sentient first cause available for consultation or prayer I shall accept their word that they are in fact an atheist.
You many not insist I try a range of sizes and shapes, but you’ll call me names, suggest to everyone that I’m the reason everything is shit- and chastise anyone that agrees with anything I say simply because I don’t agree with your suggestion.
In the end, you’re still just as bad as those you hate.
I don’t think people who are theists are BAD in the first place for being theists I think they are wrong and likely unintelligent but I don’t think they are bad for having beliefs. I think they are bad when they try to impose their beliefs founded on nothing on others.
The people that think the earth is round and those who believe it is flat both think the other is stupid. Likewise the people who believe in an imaginary friend and those who know we have to go it alone. Only one position is objectively reasonable and its not the one that involves magic.
Fair point, but it’s not atheism, and shouldn’t be associated with it. It’s more like just teenaged angst that assumes the title for the purpose of appearing edgy.
Atheism has a bad enough rap on its own. It really doesn’t need people making it out to be something that it’s not. Especially something hateful.
You also have to keep in mind that most people, even atheists, only know the religion of their upbringing. Talking shit about something that you didn’t “grow in” is usually more difficult, as it requires a minimum research (or “research”)
Atheism isn’t about talking shit. That’s my point. If all you do is talk shit, you’re not an atheist. You’re just a hater that doesn’t believe in Christianity.
Do you believe in a god? No? Then you’re an atheist.
Simple
Do you single out one religion to hate just because it’s edgy and cool?
You’re not an atheist, you’re just an asshole.
Simple.
Again, lack of belief in a deity is he only requirement for being an atheist
If you don’t like that people bang on about Christianity because they live in the part of the world where that’s the dominant oppressor: deal with it, nobody cares that you don’t like it :)
I care. So there goes your nobody argument. Care to offer up any more inaccurate blanket statements?
The fact is- edgy wannabe atheists are giving the ideology a bad name. I’m not going to argue this with you. Deal with it, I don’t. Are that you don’t like it.
(See how that works?)
Lol, pretending like “nobody cares” is invalidated by YOU caring shows you don’t know how our language works or are doing it on purpose to be a prick
I don’t disagree entirely. I also don’t care if it is or not
You’re the one who’s going to have to deal with t since you’re the one who’s butthurt.
Your pathetic attempt to turn my own words on me fails miserably when you’re the one who cares about the topic, not me. You come across as a petulant, whiny child who thinks copying the adults words means they win.
Atheism has a “bad name” insofar as it can be said to have because theists in general and abrahamic religions in particular tend to believe that disbelief is immoral in and of itself and that without fear of punishment or hope of reward users will be less moral. In fact disbelief is morally neutral and atheists are on average more moral people because real morality is virtually always rooted in empathy, guilt, and shame not fake rewards.
And angsty teenagers aren’t helping with non theists.
If I invite you to try a butt plug and you decide you don’t that sort of thing I shall not insist you try a range of sizes and shapes and shall instead accept your assertion that you don’t like the category of thing on your word as you are the foremost authority on you. If someone tells you they don’t believe that the universe has a sentient first cause available for consultation or prayer I shall accept their word that they are in fact an atheist.
Okay, let’s use your little example.
You many not insist I try a range of sizes and shapes, but you’ll call me names, suggest to everyone that I’m the reason everything is shit- and chastise anyone that agrees with anything I say simply because I don’t agree with your suggestion.
In the end, you’re still just as bad as those you hate.
(Pun intended)
I don’t think people who are theists are BAD in the first place for being theists I think they are wrong and likely unintelligent but I don’t think they are bad for having beliefs. I think they are bad when they try to impose their beliefs founded on nothing on others.
Sort of like how internet atheists do?
The people that think the earth is round and those who believe it is flat both think the other is stupid. Likewise the people who believe in an imaginary friend and those who know we have to go it alone. Only one position is objectively reasonable and its not the one that involves magic.