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minus-square@gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglish15•1 year agoFun fact (not really) about Nim: he and the other ASL chimps were HORRIBLY abused. Basically every single one of them. And it was all for nothing, not a single bit of evidence shows that teaching chimps ASL worked and allowed any form of actual communication. Yes, even Koko. https://youtu.be/e7wFotDKEF4
minus-square@Dasus@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglish5•1 year agoWell, communication is definitely shown. But… “speech”, “language”, “sentient thought”? That’s the subjective bit, imo. Communication is easy.
minus-square@Monzcarro@feddit.uklinkfedilinkEnglish4•1 year agoThere is also a good You’re Wrong About podcast episode on this.
Fun fact (not really) about Nim: he and the other ASL chimps were HORRIBLY abused. Basically every single one of them.
And it was all for nothing, not a single bit of evidence shows that teaching chimps ASL worked and allowed any form of actual communication.
Yes, even Koko.
https://youtu.be/e7wFotDKEF4
Well, communication is definitely shown.
But… “speech”, “language”, “sentient thought”? That’s the subjective bit, imo. Communication is easy.
There is also a good You’re Wrong About podcast episode on this.