• @whotookkarl@lemmy.world
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    158 months ago

    There is a difference between believing everyone owes a debt to the society and civilization you participate in to support those who cannot support themselves, and not deserving to live if you didn’t fit into the rigid hierarchy structures we’ve built for work. But often these sentiments get mixed together.

    • @intensely_human@lemm.ee
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      38 months ago

      I don’t think they do. In our society we don’t really let people die just because they don’t fit in. When there’s someone who can’t take care of their self, we take care of them.

      • @InputZero@lemmy.ml
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        118 months ago

        Where are you talking about and comparing to what? Cause I see a lot of people dying in the streets because of mental illness or drug addiction when I take the subway to work. We don’t throw them away like ancient Sparta but we definitely don’t come close to providing the services they need to the things they need to begin to get off the street. Cause the solution now is put the homeless in prison and that’s going just fine right? …Right?

        • @intensely_human@lemm.ee
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          28 months ago

          I’m talking about basically the entire human civilization, as opposed to a civilization in which people are just permitted to die.

          But most of my experience is with the united states. We take care of people left and right, and don’t let them die.

          Do you know of a place that isn’t like this? If so, where?

      • @Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works
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        38 months ago

        Lmao. What fairy tale society do you live in?

        As a selfish conservative you should already know that they are the exact ones who want to steal every single security net from every citizen whilst simultaneously enabling corporations to destroy unions and create monopolies.

        I mean c’mon, you have to know this. It’s the core tenet of the traitor supporting party. Thieving, stealing, cheating, and lying are all that the magat traitors have to offer.

        • @intensely_human@lemm.ee
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          48 months ago

          I live in reality, and I myself have been given free resources when I’ve been unable to work.

          In my country, I have never seen a hungry person who could not obtain food due to lack of fitting in or having money or any requirement other than “oh that person has a stomach and needs food, so let’s feed them”.

          That is the reality I see all around me. If you want to call that a “fairy tale”, I challenge you to provide evidence of a person being treated in the way you’re describing. Anywhere other than say a concentration camp or japanese pow camp.

          What part of our society is letting people die because they don’t fit in? This is a serious question, because everybody seems to believe what I’m saying is a fairy tale, and yet I see it happening all around me.

          How, exactly, are you getting the impression out society is one that doesn’t value the life of people who don’t fit in?

          • @Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works
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            48 months ago

            Lmao you do realize Republicans are campaigning on ELIMINATING school lunches for underprivileged children?

            They are also planning on cutting social security and other safety nets.

            They want poor and disabled people to starve. It’s their only plan.