• @PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml
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    You libs drone all the time in every media how the guy is an enemy of democracy, second coming of Hitler and needs to be stopped for any price. Yet you are “revolted” when someone taken it seriously.

    • @SorteKanin@feddit.dk
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      The problem is not Trump, the problem is the people voting for him. Trump should be stopped through educated and informed voting, that’s how democracy works.

      Unfortunately the US is not known for its education and good unbiased information. But that is the underlying problem that needs to be fixed, and shooting Trump does nothing to fix that and will only serve to replace Trump with someone equally bad (or even worse).

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        Is that how democracy worked when Sankara needed to go? When Hussein needed to go? When Gaddafi needed to go? When Libya, the once single most prosperous nation on the Motherland, needed to be flattened and turned into a hub for the trade of chattel slaves? I spit on your hand-hiding.

        • @billgamesh@lemmy.ml
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          84 months ago

          libs don’t care about democracy abroad. It doesn’t count as democracy if it oppises US economic interests

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            I think you’ve landed on the exact reason why my hatred for them is as naked and unvarnished as it is. There’s nothing I hate more than a goddamned hypocrite; and Amerika(and her frankly Gomorran allies and vassals) is fucking lousy with deceit and hypocrisy.

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          Why do you list these three, they didn’t govern under democracies? Saddam wasn’t operating under a democracy at all, besides a couple of fake elections. Gaddafi had some elements of a democracy, but most power was in his hands with no way to vote him out. Sankara rule started in a coup (or revolution if that’s how you want it) and was ended in a coup when he was assassinated.

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            Deliberate. It’s because nobody in the west is a ‘democracy’ either. Amerika, Britain, Germany, every peckerwood nation attached to NATO or the FIVE-EYES alliance, all oligarchies and vassals to capital; several undergoing transformation into kleptocracies, plutocracies, and blatant kyriarchies. Y’all just murder any world leader who you either have racist tendencies against, or tells you no, and I spit on it. You belong to no democracy. You are no democrat.

      • krolden
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        44 months ago

        Are you saying people should start shooting trump voters instead of trump?

        • @SorteKanin@feddit.dk
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          44 months ago

          What a way to deliberately misread what I am saying. Obviously not and I won’t waste time on such a purposeful bad faith reading of what I said.

    • @P1r4nha@feddit.de
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      Democracy needs to be saved through democratic processes, not a lawless assassination attempt, otherwise it would be disingenious to want to protect it and its values.

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        I didn’t even suggested you people should murder him*, just pointed how calling him enemy of democracy, second coming of Hitler and constantly droning about having to stop him is a call for stochastic terrorism, but you clearly understood it like this so the feedback checks out.

        Also lmao fucking hell you call US president election mechanism “democratic”? And i won’t comment on US “democratic values”.

        Wait you aren’t even Usian lmao you absolute clown.

        *FYI Marxists-Leninists usually think political assassinations are futile adventurism, since it won’t change the conditions that created people like Trump. Which won’t mean we wouln’t be glad if some ghoul get offed.

        • @P1r4nha@feddit.de
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          Haven’t seen any prominent lib even use violent rhethoric in connection with pointing out Trump’s dangerous plans for his second term, so I was surprised you bring up stochastic terrorism. The fact that Democrats are running a horrible candidate against him just shows that they don’t take this seriously at all. Maybe that’s what you tried to say in your first message.

          I agree that democratic processes have little to do with US politics these days, but are you suggesting you can promote democratic values with anything outside living them (not that US politician do that, but in principle).

          And it shouldn’t matter where I’m from. The disaster that is the US empires fall is of global interest.

          • Amerikan Pharaoh
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            And it shouldn’t matter where I’m from.

            It does. All you and yours do is suckle off the teat of the slavemaster empire; you don’t get a seat at the table to discuss how the subjects-of-empire struggling against the nation that established itself off rampant violence and bloodshed should correct their course.

          • @PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml
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            Haven’t seen any prominent lib even use violent rhethoric in connection with pointing out Trump’s dangerous plans for his second term, so I was surprised you bring up stochastic terrorism.

            That’s precisely how stochastic terrorism works, the big wigs never straight up call for it to have their hands clean just in case, for that they have their tabloids, their agitators, their media heads, their internet trolls. And btw Biden did said they need to put Trump into the bullseye (though he most likely didn’t meant it literally, but on the other hand he promised to get rid of Nordstream back in the day and it happened).

            I agree that democratic processes have little to do with US politics these days, but are you suggesting you can promote democratic values with anything outside living them (not that US politician do that, but in principle).

            In principle i do but i don’t see liberal democracy as desirable version of it due to it being in service of the small minority of capitalists and their stooges exploiting workers, and as such the system works exactly according to its values. I just think those real values behind that system are abhorrent.

            And it shouldn’t matter where I’m from. The disaster that is the US empires fall is of global interest.

            What SUPAVILLAIN said. If you’re not part of the abovementioned minority or their stooge you should be dearly interested in end of the US empire.