“Threads is deepening its ties to the fediverse, also known as the open social web, which powers services like X alternative Mastodon, Pixelfed, PeerTube, Flipboard and other apps. On Wednesday, Meta announced that users on Threads will be able to see fediverse replies on other posts besides their own. In addition, posts that originated through the Threads API, like those created via third-party apps and scheduling services, will now be syndicated to the fediverse. The latter had previously been announced via an in-app message informing users that API posts would be shared to the fediverse starting on August 28.”

  • @kerthale@lemmy.world
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    921 days ago

    Maybe we should do a reverse embrace-extend-extinguish where we open everything up until the point that they start introducing ads to enshittify the platform. Then after that great migration say goodbye to them

        • troed
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          521 days ago

          Why would you subscribe to those? Or are you claiming they would post ads as if they are from a user? In the latter case - the EU would shut them down before they even had time to deploy that.

          • @niartenyaw@midwest.social
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            321 days ago

            yeah, I see them being posted into their DB (and therefore federated as) a post as if they are a user. they can earmark that post as an ad and properly present it as such in their own platform but anyone federated would see the post as-is.

            they could either obfuscate how they mark it as an ad or just not provide that information at all to federating instances.

            then I can totally see them claiming they don’t control other instances and can’t be responsible for whether or not the federated ads are presented as such.

            • troed
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              321 days ago

              As I have already posted elsewhere in this thread, if they post ads as a user they would get shut down by the EU immediately.

              Any other suggestions?

                • troed
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                  321 days ago

                  Of course it does. The EU is such a big market that Meta cannot afford to do that.

                  • @niartenyaw@midwest.social
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                    220 days ago

                    companies are capable of operating under different rules in different jurisdictions, they do it all the time. just look at how they handle data in EU due to GDPR vs how they do it everywhere else. I don’t see why this case would be much different.

          • HobbitFoot
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            121 days ago

            It depends on how you read posts on Mastadon. I can see methods of developing ways that read Mastadon posts that can hide ads in it.

            • troed
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              321 days ago

              Please post one of those ways and I’ll shoot it down.

      • Dessalines
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        721 days ago

        Most platforms (especially reddit, instagram, twitter) moved ads from ad-dedicated spaces, to authentic-seeming posts, that are actually ads.

          • @Taleya@aussie.zone
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            520 days ago

            Sure they can. If you can’t see them you might want to consider checking out Monkey Joe’s optometry, they’re pretty cheap and got good stock.

            • troed
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              220 days ago

              Why would I subscribe to a fake account pushing ads?

      • @kerthale@lemmy.world
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        521 days ago

        That’s exactly the point. There are a lot of users on Threads who might be happy with the Fediverse. Threads will undoubtedly need a put in ads in their app/instance, their enshittification is inevitable. If it becomes easy for users to move over to more friendly Fediverse instances, that is a win.

        • troed
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          121 days ago

          My bad - I misread. Yeah that’s a good point.

      • just another dev
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        221 days ago

        They can still train ML models (create profit) from the data they get from you without consent.

        • troed
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          521 days ago

          They can do that no matter if I federate with them or not.

          • just another dev
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            221 days ago

            And in one of those cases they are violating a very clear “this is not okay” signal, and in the other they are not.

            • troed
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              521 days ago

              They’re already training on that data. No signals of relevance here.

      • Baron Von J
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        221 days ago

        They meant after Threads enshitifies itself and the users migrate to a proper Fedi platform then we block out Threads.