- cross-posted to:
- lemmy@lemmy.ml
- cross-posted to:
- lemmy@lemmy.ml
Would it be a good idea to import all posts from /r/warframe into dormi.zone? (maybe using the linked scripts)
There is lots of useful information in old reddit posts and they are pretty consistently among the top google results for various Warframe-related searches
I don’t know what you expected. Keep in mind that the Lemmyverse has never had a Warframe community before.
What information are you missing? I hope you understand that I can’t just copy the entire sub over without any filter.
https://dormi.zone/comment/68235
I’m not saying you need to copy the information over, but that information is valuable. Whoever is currently in control of the Subreddit and it must be someone here, needs to set it so no new posts can come but people can still access the unbelievable wealth of knowledge that has accumulated over there. Denying people access to it isn’t punishing reddit or whoever spez is, and it’s certainly not helping whoever is losing access to the apps, If anything it brings more awareness to Dormi.Zone if done correctly.
In the linked comment from @baconboyloiter is a perfect example of how it affects the general Warframe playerbase. The Warframe reddit knowledge base is way too much for anyone to take this seriously until it’s got its own base to work from, that will take time and your general user is not going to care to contribute to an unproven source. I don’t even know what a Fediverse is, but I’ve seen that word so much trying to just work out how Lemmy works. Unfortunately, the blackout doesn’t make me dislike reddit, it makes me dislike people who make these choices that are essentially hurting everyone.
I found out about the blackout because of r/Warframe, I have no hat in that race. I’m not angry or bothered by whatever is happening with reddit and the apps, maybe I should, but I don’t use reddit that much. I am however annoyed someone took the ball home because they were upset.
We’re currently discussing internally on how to proceed with the subreddit. No matter what happens, the knowledge base on r/Warframe will not be lost forever.
That’s good, and great for whatever decision you all come to, but how many mods are their making this decision? How long is it going to take? The decision and time being taken by a few will affect the warframe hobby of many, for what accounts to “We don’t want you to support reddit, so you can’t!”
I’m all for the new platform, and I’ll try contribute and help my fellow Tenno, but a big part of that right now is advocating getting access to the information that people will want. The weekend is almost here, and more people will be online, I’m sure I’m not the only one upset by the actions of the Warframe reddit mod team. I think you’d find people are okay with the change, as long as it doesn’t hurt their time.
That’s the issue though, a lot of our daily content is various general questions of how warframes work, and if their build is ok. The information is accessible via wayback machine as well as adding
cache:to the beginning of the URL. Additionally, users who dont have links can help by requesting the particular guide or resource that they are looking for so that we as a community can salvage, and the ones that aren’t exactly bookmarked by many can still be retrieved as the most active mods do also have a hand in curating the dormi.zone.That’s still a bad take, you’re asking the user to excuse your decisions. I assume you were a mod on the subreddit, do you still have access to all that information? If so, what makes you and the mod team behind the scenes the ones who decides gets access to it.
It’s hard to root for the side playing keep away. I know I posted on the subreddit, under the assumption people would have access to that information when they needed it.
Also, what happens if the team behind Lemmy do something you don’t agree with, will all the information here also be taken from the end user because you don’t agree with it?
Again, I have no stake in the Reddit fight, i couldnt care where I go to talk about warframe or on what website. I exclusively used reddit for Warframe, having that taken away wasn’t Reddit, it was the moderation team.
I’m just here to add my voice to the conversation and say that I agree with everything you’re saying. The WF reddit being full of info built up over many, many years is no small thing. Many, many google searches will lead to dead ends if it remains private forever. If the entire team that ran it want to nuke it and never make it accessible again, I will be unhappy about losing it, but that’s their choice as the owners of the subreddit
However, I am of the belief that owners of any kind of online database or platform that is/was accessed by thousands to millions of people have an ethical responsibility to preserve that data for posterity. This is an issue far bigger than just our little gaming sphere, but the morality of the issue still stands here as it does anywhere else on the internet
I don’t agree with this belief, for multiple reasons:
In my opinion, if you find something you want to be preserved, you should not delegate that responsibility to someone else, but rather make a local copy yourself.
This is why it’s a moral/ethical issue, as it relies on individuals taking personal responsibility. Nobody can be forced into anything. I support the blackout as I don’t support what Reddit is doing with the APIs, but what you as moderators of the community have done is essentially wield your power to make a decision for others. They had no say in the matter. You indisputably have the power do that, but is it the right thing to do? Does your disagreement with a platform give you the right to restrict access to a previously public database? With power comes responsibility, yadda yadda. I can’t make you take responsibility, and you can’t make everyone agree with your actions. It could be argued that if you wanted to leave Reddit, you should have handed moderation over to people who were happy to stay and deal with the API changes. Then people would have been free to make their own choice on whether they also wanted to leave Reddit and come here, or stay on Reddit (and I think people who are against the strike will very quickly realise what a shitshow Reddit becomes without APIs to assist moderation). But what’s happened now is that you exercised personal ownership over something that many other users will feel also belonged to them. Contentious issue
However, strikes have to be disruptive to make their point and force change, which is why I support the blackout. I’m aware that making the sub read-only still lets Reddit receive traffic, but it’s the only compromise. If you make the sub read-only, I’m more than happy to contribute here by moving across any important info I think should be shared