Auction: https://www.sav.com/auctions/details/7073489/hexbear.net
Not sure what will happen, but seems to be a Fediverselore event for sure
Update: post from hexbear admin on chapo.chat: https://chapo.chat/post/4468531
Auction: https://www.sav.com/auctions/details/7073489/hexbear.net
Not sure what will happen, but seems to be a Fediverselore event for sure
Update: post from hexbear admin on chapo.chat: https://chapo.chat/post/4468531
What was the problem with Hexbear again?
Most of them are tankies (dumb political ideology) but most people took issue with the fact that they were the most annoying people on Lemmy. Every thread they’d be in would be a collection of the worst takes imaginable and they liked to start arguments with everyone else
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Absolutely wrong. A tankie is a fake leftist who idolizes authoritarian regimes / leaders
So, it’s a perjorative then.
Sure like calling a Nazi a Nazi is technically pejorative. More importantly, it’s a warning identifier to others.
A Nazi is a real thing, there was a Nazi party that ruled a country, and there are still people nowadays who adhere to the ideals of that party.
There was never a “Tankie” party, it’s something that only exists in your head and has no representation in the real world.
It doesn’t have to be a defined party to be an ideology. It’s pretty hilarious y’all are defending authoritarian Stans
So Zante was right.
It’s clearly an ideology as well, which is what I was addressing. (Ideology/idolize)
Well no, it’s clearly not. Like you said, it’s a perjorative.
“Tankie” is a caricature. The idea of a tankie is the ideal vision of a McCarthyian Communist. In reality, the overwhelming majority of people labeled as such don’t actually fit that label, it’s more of a way to cast an image of someone’s positions based on, say, support for AES countries, and twist that into the evil Commie Pinko that haunts the dreams of 1960s children in the US.
So, yes, it’s a pejorative, and not one I think is aiding leftists trying to understand the views of others. More often than not it’s used as “commie” was: to shut down conversation and otherize people.
If someone supports authoritarians masquerading as leftists they subscribe to tankie ideology. Sucks for them that it’s a pejorative TOO.
If people don’t like being called it maybe they shouldn’t openly support such behavior.
Edit it’s funny, someone calling for mutual aid driven , equity based, collectivist society would never be called a tankie. It’s other stuff that people are squirming out of the cracks to defend here. Like long running dictatorial rule, state control of information, ethnic cleansing and political prisons.
And before I’m hit with the ml special: a lot of that shit happens in the west too, and has for years. There’s just different labels for it.
What makes someone a Leftist, vs an “authoritarian masquerading as a leftist?” What is “tankie ideology?”
JAQ elsewhere. Ample resources to look up.
My late edit had some keywords to can type in if you’re unfamiliar.
It isn’t “JAQ,” I asked a specific pair of questions because vague gesturing isn’t effective communication. For your edit, removing control from the Bourgeoisie, defending revolution, and having the Dictatorship of the Proletariat control the press is straight from Marx, so I guess you mean Marxism is “tankie ideology.” I don’t know what you mean by dictatorships, nor ethnic cleansing, this just seems to be more vague assertions.
i think its more of a general term, specifically with the focus on large government oversight.
“tankies” don’t like anyone on the left of them
What’s to the left of “everybody to the left of Elizabeth Warren”?
We just need to add a “person with” on the parenthesis and it will be understandable enough
Let’s also not forget their emoji spamming either. They absolutely trashed many threads on servers federated with them.
Especially the pig shitting one.
Yup, that’s one of their favorites to spam.
Their users are needlessly hostile towards anyone who disagrees with them, they had a bug that caused their emotes to become oversized on Lemmy which quickly flooded threads when their users spam them, and they have a reputation for brigading threads to “dunk” on people. They also really like to flood threads with graphic images of pigs shitting on their own testicles, because that’s definitely what normal people do.
It’s worth noting that they don’t federate with other instances to participate in good faith, they do so in order to dunk on people and “dismantle Western propaganda” and “plant the beans of truth in other instances fields” and in general act in bad faith. Worse, their instance admins did little to stop this.
They were defederated from many instances for good reason, as their behaviour drove away a lot of new users. A lot of Hexbear users have alts on lemmy.ml and midwest.social, so the defederation doesn’t stop their users from continuing to be dickheads.
And if you’d like some receipts, I have plenty of examples. Best viewed from an instance that federates with Hexbear, so you can see their behaviour for yourself.
https://lemmy.ca/post/3326347 https://lemm.ee/post/4543536 https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/2017079 https://lemmy.world/post/2498330
Oh wow OK.
Thanks for the detailed explanation and sources.
No problem. I was around when Hexbear was still federated with my instance and saw the worst of it all, so I try to keep people informed. Their behaviour nearly made me leave Lemmy entirely, and no doubt others have because of it.
Have you ever been around a child who gets some silly factoid in their head, but it’s completely wrong because children are still learning the very basics of synthesizing the observable world into coherent ideas?
Hexbears are like children who have spent the last six hours explaining to you over and over again that cows can breathe under water.
It’s only a problem if you don’t like having chauvinism and western state propaganda brainworms questioned. As a ND queer communist I have never felt more comfortable and welcome posting than on hexbear. Their mutual aid comm is highly active and an immensely helpful place for many people. It’s an adorable community, they get a bad rap by people that come in arguing in bad faith who then run away to shame the hateful ‘tankies’ on their main instance like this post here.
That’s not what I saw from what many instance admins have posted. They don’t seem friendly at all.
why not just join and see for yourself? Or dont even need to join, its a public website just browse for a bit
I’ve seen how they behave in other communities, they didn’t “question” anything, and there’s nothing adorable about them.
Maybe they think pigs shitting on their balls is adorable? Saw a whole lot of that from Hexbears.
That’s their fetish.