Sure no problem, let’s say you live in a village that’s next to a small town and then you are sent to an appointment to another doctor that’s only found in a nearby city, doing all that stuff is a lot of travelling, exhausting
I disagree. I think disability access should be one of the most important things considered when designing public spaces.
Its something that I (an American) honestly took for granted until I spent some time in Europe. I’m fortunate to be completely physically and mentally (for this conversation lol) capable, but I have friends who are not. But going around Europe, especially outside of big cities, it was shocking to see how many buildings aren’t wheelchair accessible, how roads crossings aren’t designed for people with vision impairments, how little braille there was, bathrooms without mobility bars, and countless other little things.
And the argument I heard a lot was either “but they’re old buildings” or “it’ll cost too much money” and honestly those are some BS answers.
Idk the US does a lot wrong, but the ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) really does seem to be the global standard. And it’s an incredibly good thing.
To explain my downvote: yes, designing for disabled access is important. But making out that the ADA is actually enforced, and ignoring its origins in controlling and disempowering disabled people, is bullshit. So’s your original pessimistic example - if we’re improving public transit and banning cars from cities, we can absolutely tear up the carbrained suburbs, and massively expand access-a-ride and similar services in the meantime.
I am not discussing edge cases I provided the example asked for, I agree with James May that cars in cities suck and we should plan cities better and reduce their numbers as much as possible, I just dislike the absolutist nature of the headline it’s the exact type of headline that opposers of good urban planning will point to when accusing people of wanting to taker freedum and their cars
Sure no problem, let’s say you live in a village that’s next to a small town and then you are sent to an appointment to another doctor that’s only found in a nearby city, doing all that stuff is a lot of travelling, exhausting
Let’s say you live on the moon and need to reach earth for the funeral of your Aunt who rules the underground city of Uthrangon.
You are discussing edge cases. Urban planning should consider edge cases but not base the code design of a city after them.
I disagree. I think disability access should be one of the most important things considered when designing public spaces.
Its something that I (an American) honestly took for granted until I spent some time in Europe. I’m fortunate to be completely physically and mentally (for this conversation lol) capable, but I have friends who are not. But going around Europe, especially outside of big cities, it was shocking to see how many buildings aren’t wheelchair accessible, how roads crossings aren’t designed for people with vision impairments, how little braille there was, bathrooms without mobility bars, and countless other little things.
And the argument I heard a lot was either “but they’re old buildings” or “it’ll cost too much money” and honestly those are some BS answers.
Idk the US does a lot wrong, but the ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) really does seem to be the global standard. And it’s an incredibly good thing.
To explain my downvote: yes, designing for disabled access is important. But making out that the ADA is actually enforced, and ignoring its origins in controlling and disempowering disabled people, is bullshit. So’s your original pessimistic example - if we’re improving public transit and banning cars from cities, we can absolutely tear up the carbrained suburbs, and massively expand access-a-ride and similar services in the meantime.
I am not discussing edge cases I provided the example asked for, I agree with James May that cars in cities suck and we should plan cities better and reduce their numbers as much as possible, I just dislike the absolutist nature of the headline it’s the exact type of headline that opposers of good urban planning will point to when accusing people of wanting to taker freedum and their cars
@kameecoding @pineapple yes, spending all your day driving is exhausting. With good PT that day of errands is quite enjoyable.
I’d say that’s quite person dependent, for me driving is a mostly relaxing thing, but I know I an a weirdo who enjoys driving.
@kameecoding enjoying and it being taxing aren’t really relayed. Driving takes effort that sitting on a bus doesn’t
For me sitting ona bus is more taxing, because I am not doing anything and I am among people.
Like I said, I am probably the weirdo here