The way they made people work for wages started at the barrel of a gun. “We take your (public) land, now you work in a factory or starve”. All the rest you think are due to Capitalism, is in fact the victories of the working class struggles, which they’ve been trying to dismantle for the past century. If anything the system resets itself to its original form.
The GP is talking about the dismantling of the Commons in England during the Industrial Revolution.
Anyway, it’s not that simple. English even got the term “tragedy of the Commons” to refer to what was happening before the dismantling. Those people still were plainly stolen, yes, but the value what was taken wasn’t that clear. Also, people were escaping the Commons into factory jobs way before they were taken.
Wages existed in feudalism, but we don’t call any system which has money and wages capitalism. For that we need that wage slavery is the primary mode of production.
The way they made people work for wages started at the barrel of a gun. “We take your (public) land, now you work in a factory or starve”. All the rest you think are due to Capitalism, is in fact the victories of the working class struggles, which they’ve been trying to dismantle for the past century. If anything the system resets itself to its original form.
Where can I read more about this?
The GP is talking about the dismantling of the Commons in England during the Industrial Revolution.
Anyway, it’s not that simple. English even got the term “tragedy of the Commons” to refer to what was happening before the dismantling. Those people still were plainly stolen, yes, but the value what was taken wasn’t that clear. Also, people were escaping the Commons into factory jobs way before they were taken.
“the tragedy of the commons” is pure propaganda to excuse theyenclosures.
Fiefdom, company town, industrial Revolution, go read about that… Workers of the early 20th century didn’t live the good life!
Fairly certain wages existed before guns.
But “end of a pointy stick” lacks gravitas.
Wages existed in feudalism, but we don’t call any system which has money and wages capitalism. For that we need that wage slavery is the primary mode of production.