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🏴 hamid the villain [he/him] 🏴 to Memes@lemmy.ml • 1 month ago

American Veterans 🫡🦅🎸🇺🇸

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American Veterans 🫡🦅🎸🇺🇸

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🏴 hamid the villain [he/him] 🏴 to Memes@lemmy.ml • 1 month ago
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    The first picture is an apartment block getting leveled.

    The second one is a man at Abu Gharib being electrocuted with mains power, where thousands of prisoners, mostly picked up for petty crimes or detained without trial met worse fates, including worse torture, rape, and murder.

    The third is a child who managed to tear her clothes off after the US dropped napalm on them as they fled their village, but was burnt badly enough she had to spend 14 months in the hospital. She was one of the lucky ones.

    The fourth is the second atomic bomb the US dropped on a civilian population.

    From what perspective is murdering hundreds (hundreds of thousands in the case of Nagasaki) of civilians just trying to live their lives on the other side of the planet acts of self-defense?

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      Nice spin. The point is that NCD is defense themed and Nato themed, not that the pictures aren’t of atrocities.

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        NCD is not about “defence” it’s about war and the glorification of weapons used to murder children. At best it’s ironic and incredibly tasteless, more realistically, they’re just a bunch of bloodthirsty fascists hiding behind irony for plausible deniability.

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        NATO is the largest Imperialist millitary coalition in the world, NCD being NATO focused directly means that it’s focused on celebrating Imperialist atrocities.

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        NATO “defence” 🍆 ✊

        • The Intercept, 2021: Meet NATO, the Dangerous “Defensive” Alliance Trying to Run the World
        • CounterPunch, 2022: NATO is Not a Defensive Alliance
        • Noam Chomsky, 2023: NATO “most violent, aggressive alliance in the world”
        • Thomas Fazi, 2024: NATO: 75 years of war, unprovoked aggressions and state-sponsored terrorism
        • Gabriel Rockhill, 2020: The U.S. Did Not Defeat Fascism in WWII, It Discretely Internationalized It
        • @Mrkawfee@lemmy.world
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          Fuck. That is wild. The Nazis just changed uniforms.

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          Hey this was informative! Let’s do the scientists who built their weapons next! Or are we ignoring those?

          • davel [he/him]
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            Don’t say that he’s hypocritical
            Say rather that he’s apolitical
            “Once the rockets are up, who cares where they come down?
            That’s not my department!” says Wernher von Braun

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        In OP are images of what NATO, an organization that has never fought a defensive war in its entire existence, calls defense.

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          The US is not NATO. Especially now with Trump in daddy Putins pocket.

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            The US is not NATO

            It kinda is tho. It was set up by the US to counter the Warsaw pact and prey upon neutral countries, as Blinken put it “If you’re not at the table, you’re on the menu”. This is evidenced by every single NATO action being in the US’s interest.

            Especially now with Trump in daddy Putins pocket.

            As funny as it would be for Trump to dismantle NATO, his only issue with it is that it doesn’t do enough imperialism.

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        Claiming that any of the war crimes pictured was anything to do with “defense” (as opposed to “offense” or, better yet, “bloodthirsty neocolonial conquest”) is olympic-tier mental gymnastics.

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