• sixty
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    1726 days ago

    You CAN train a model on licensed or open data. But we all know they didn’t keep it to just that.

    • drkt
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      226 days ago

      Yeah the corporations didn’t, that doesn’t mean you can’t and that people aren’t doing that.

        • drkt
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          225 days ago

          No, they’re using a corporate model that was trained unethically. I don’t see what your point is, though. That’s not inherent to how LLMs or other AIs work, that’s just corporations being leeches. In other words, business as usual in capitalist society.

          • @mke@programming.dev
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            325 days ago

            You’re right about it not being inherent to the tech, and I sincerely apologize if I insist too much despite that. This will be my last reply to you. I hope I gave you something constructive to think about rather than just noise.

            The issue, and my point, is that you’re defending a technicality that doesn’t matter in real world usage. Nearly no one uses non-corporate, ethical AI. Most organizations working with it aren’t starting from scratch because it’s disadvantageous or outright unfeasible resourcewise. Instead, they use pre-existing corporate models.

            Edd may not be technically right, but he is practically right. The people he’s referring to are extremely unlikely to be using or creating completely ethical datasets/AI.

            • drkt
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              125 days ago

              The issue, and my point, is that you’re defending a technicality that doesn’t matter in real world usage.

              You’re right and I need to stop doing it. That’s a good reminder to go and enjoy the fresh spring air 😄

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        425 days ago

        … but that’s why people are against it.