You seem to be either confused or unable to stay on topic. My point was that servers are paid by the hour which you confirm by stating the exact rates. What is your point? That they don’t get paid a lot? I’m aware, it’s why I don’t go to these places.
So you agree with my original claim…? What the hell have you been bitching about then?
Is this supposed to somehow guilt me into wanting to tip?
No, my entire point was that if you don’t want to tip, don’t go to a place where the employees rely on tips to make a living. If you do go to a place where they rely on tips, you should tip even if you don’t like the concept.
If a server doesn’t make enough money, that’s between them and their employer like in literally (and I mean literally, not figuratively) every other industry.
Yeah, because systemic poverty is a problem solved by personal responsibility…
A lot of people would love to not work for tips, but never had the resources or education to get a better career.
Oh, it’s just the system, nothing we can do! We have to conform to the system because the owners don’t care!" is exactly what greedy restaurants owners are hoping you’ll say and you perpetuate this system by repeating it over and over.
Or…like I originally said, don’t support those restaurants. Better yet, support politician and unions that aim to protect workers. My whole point is that we shouldn’t make it the workers problem.
I’m not even going to read the rest of you strawman argument, you’ve already agreed with my original claim. The rest of what you’ve said is just cognitive dissonance. You have been simultaneously saying it’s not okay to frequent tip based restaurant, but have also been defending stiffing waiters. So it seems like you are just angry and confused, I don’t think talking about this with you anymore is going to be productive in any sense.
You should read the rest of my reply. If you refuse to allow for counter arguments to what you said, there’s no point in replying. You know exactly what my point is but you refuse to engage with it because you know I’m right.
So you agree with my original claim…? What the hell have you been bitching about then?
No, my entire point was that if you don’t want to tip, don’t go to a place where the employees rely on tips to make a living. If you do go to a place where they rely on tips, you should tip even if you don’t like the concept.
Yeah, because systemic poverty is a problem solved by personal responsibility…
A lot of people would love to not work for tips, but never had the resources or education to get a better career.
Or…like I originally said, don’t support those restaurants. Better yet, support politician and unions that aim to protect workers. My whole point is that we shouldn’t make it the workers problem.
I’m not even going to read the rest of you strawman argument, you’ve already agreed with my original claim. The rest of what you’ve said is just cognitive dissonance. You have been simultaneously saying it’s not okay to frequent tip based restaurant, but have also been defending stiffing waiters. So it seems like you are just angry and confused, I don’t think talking about this with you anymore is going to be productive in any sense.
You should read the rest of my reply. If you refuse to allow for counter arguments to what you said, there’s no point in replying. You know exactly what my point is but you refuse to engage with it because you know I’m right.