• Saik0
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    608 months ago

    They’ve been doing it for a while. Since June of last year or something. They have ipv6 rotation tools to get around it now. But youtube is basically ip banning instances.

  • @flop_leash_973@lemmy.world
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    Google is going to keep finding ways to break these front-ends as they search for ways other than ads to monetize their services. I fully expect they will eventually lockout the public API so only the official app can use it in that quest as well. In my opinion the front-ends are just a bandaid and the real solution is something other than YouTube completely, if that is even possible at this point.

    All of the front-end solutions are telling Google is that people want that content and they will come to YouTube for it one way or the other, Google just needs to figure out how to force people down the workflow that gets them the most money.

      • @flop_leash_973@lemmy.world
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        Wasn’t talking about Invidious with that bit of my comment as I am aware they don’t use the api. I meant for things that do use the api.

      • Jamyang
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        38 months ago

        They’d be doing me a huge favor if they go aheadwith this plan.

    • @TheFriar@lemm.ee
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      48 months ago

      It does seem like they moved their focus away from ublockO to focus on the front ends, though. While I can’t use invidious, I can use regular ol’ YT with UblockO activated and I’m not constantly having to fight and wait for an update.

      I think it’s funny those pricks are fighting a multi front battle that they’re clearly losing lol

  • @SuperSynthia@lemmy.world
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    328 months ago

    Hopefully it gets sorted out soon. I wish if I HAD to pay money for youtube I could do it in a way thats data respecting.

    • Karyoplasma
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      338 months ago

      It’s already fixed with the March 31st release. Some instances are just not updated yet.

  • @yamanii@lemmy.world
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    318 months ago

    They broke everything even revanced, had to scour for a new patch since only newpipe still worked but I can’t access the watch later playlist on it.

    • @vaionko@sopuli.xyz
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      The moment I notived revanced has stopped working for me a new version was already available that worked. I guess ot might’ve been a staged rollout?

    • @ilikecoffee@lemmy.world
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      58 months ago

      Revanced has been crashing for me every single time I try to patch something, is that why? 🤔 I was gonna submit a bug report tomorrow.

          • LoudWaterHombre
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            28 months ago

            So I have seen a lot of people having these issues and the any Video you click redirects to a YouTube Help Video saying something like “This video isn’t supported on this app”. This now has happened to me but I was able workaround it.

            I have the solution for you

            Go to your Revanced Extended settings and go to miscellaneous. Export your settings in both .txt and as a file just to be sure. (this might still not work to import it into the new app. So if have any special settings maybe take a screenshot or a Video)

            Then you can delete all the cache and app data of both YouTube Extended and the Vanced MicroG app and uninstall.

            Go to your RVX Manager > Settings > Sources and enter it as it shows on the screenshot I provided. (don’t worry, once inotia is back you can just reset this back to default)

            Restart the Manager and do the usual.

            Go to patch, tap on the recommeded version and download it. Then go back to patch on your RVX Manager and tap on storage on the bottom right and choose the version you just downloaded and patch it.

            When done patching and installing after opening the app it’ll tell you to that microG is missing and it’ll redirect you to the supported GMScore site. Download and install it log back in to your Google account and go back to Import your settings (hopefully it works for you) AAAAND YOU’RE DONE. This worked for me and since I still see so many people looking for a solution I thought I’d share how I made it work again. Just to be clear, this app will still look and work like Revanced Extended but in it’s core it now is YouTube Advanced and it works perfectly.

      • @COASTER1921@lemmy.ml
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        68 months ago

        Spoofing app version stopped working. Luckily if you simply patched a newer version it still works correctly.

  • @melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee
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    278 months ago

    Remember when you didn’t have to red queen your hacker shit to watch funny videos?

    God I feel old. I’m so sick of this shit.

  • @headroom@lemmy.ml
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    238 months ago

    I kinda stop using these services after a while. I want the recommendation algorithm.

    • @ilinamorato@lemmy.world
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      Meh, discoverability isn’t really as much of a problem as people think it is. Add videos to your Watch Later from your Subscriptions tab, and as YouTubers you like do collaborations or recommendations, you’ll discover similar channels. Sometimes you’ll find a channel from a creator’s website or from a podcast, or from a social media feed you follow (reverse-chrono or most-liked only, please). It’s a world-wide web, and as much as companies try to sell you the myth of discoverability-as-a-service, that’s just a marketing tool. They need it to push ads and drive retention. You don’t need it at all, because the web already does that.

      I’m almost entirely off of black-box recommendation algorithms, and I still find new things I like. In fact, my to-watch, to-read, and to-listen queues are too big to handle in a reasonable amount of time. I regularly have to unsubscribe from things I don’t like as much anymore or risk getting deluged with too many things I want to see. But the bonus is, I don’t get anything I don’t want to see.

      Write your own algorithm. It’s a better life, and it barely takes any more time or effort. Just change your bookmarks and be willing to put in an extra click or two when you want to consume something.

        • @ilinamorato@lemmy.world
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          58 months ago

          The difference is whether you watch a few videos you don’t really care about every day, or a few videos from creators you actually like and find interesting every day.

          Also, “all that?” Seriously? You just go to your Subscriptions tab instead of your Home tab, and that’s too much for you? lol

    • SharkAttak
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      Seconded, the recommendations can help you discover new things, that you didn’t even know existed… that said, I can’t stand having someone stalk and monetize your every move.

      • @InfiniWheel@lemmy.one
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        58 months ago

        I quite like it precisely because it provided no recommendations. I’m not enticed to waste time watching something I wasn’t interested in 3 seconds ago. If I want to watch something I have to look it up and that’s usually the end of it.

      • @headroom@lemmy.ml
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        18 months ago

        that said, I can’t stand having someone stalk and monetize your every move

        Well, they can’t. I have an anonymus account only for youtube that I access only over the VPN with adblockers.

    • @Chee_Koala@lemmy.world
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      138 months ago

      Just the opposite for me, I disconnected because I’m done with Google, now I want to stay way so the algorithm can’t find me. I’ll check what I want to check, when I want it.

    • Parculis Marcilus
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      118 months ago

      It’s fine tbh, but YouTube is really running out of great contents these days, and you have to constantly check the sources before being gaslighted. I would rather take my pace and search up things when I wanted.

    • Justin
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      108 months ago

      why are people downvoting you for wanting to use the algorithm recommendations?

      • @lemmytellyousomething@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        98 months ago

        Some people use downvotes to signalize a different opinion, which is kind of toxic. We want different opinions here. What we don’t want is hate, extremism, fake news, … That’s what deserves the downvotes.

        • @redcalcium@lemmy.instituteOP
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          38 months ago

          People getting downvoted just for having a different opinion really annoys me. Same with seeing obvious trolls getting upvoted. It’s not ideal, but lemmy has an option to hide scores, and it makes browsing lemmy more pleasant to me.

    • @Tja@programming.dev
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      Same. I have new pipe on my phone but end up using the official app with premium more often.

  • @solrize@lemmy.world
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    228 months ago

    The change the Youtube front end code now and then, breaking yt-dlp temporarily until someone checks in a patch.

  • @webghost0101@sopuli.xyz
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    178 months ago

    When i noticed i checked the github to see there was an active bug report.

    24 hours later they where talking about a fix that was on its way.

    I updated this morning and all is well.

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    It seems clear they don’t want us using their site with videos.

    I think publishing video files on the Web is not some unique know-how.

    By the way, neither is search, neither are ratings.

    And “being in the same space” with the rest of the world is an illusion due to the way recommendations work there. I mean, it’s sufficient to look at the views counter under a video and combine it with some other numbers to realize this.

    Freedom is so close. It’s not in defeating the network effect, it’s in realizing that it’s fucking useless in anything but scaring us away from leaving trap spaces.

          • @rottingleaf@lemmy.zip
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            Well, first, judging by the amount of likes\dislikes, it may have made sense for some of the people who read it. So maybe you should ask yourself whether you not understanding something is closer to being your problem or my problem.

            It seems clear they don’t want us using their site with videos.

            Google makes it unpleasant using YT for a part of its users. It’s clear they don’t want that part (us).

            I think publishing video files on the Web is not some unique know-how.

            Serving files over HTTP is not something only Google can do.

            By the way, neither is search, neither are ratings.

            I think you understood this sentence.

            And “being in the same space” with the rest of the world is an illusion due to the way recommendations work there. I mean, it’s sufficient to look at the views counter under a video and combine it with some other numbers to realize this.

            This is in response to some unsaid thing like “but everyone uses YT” with the implication that on big platforms people are all in the same space. In fact you’ll never “meet” some people there simply because of how recommendations work.

            Freedom is so close. It’s not in defeating the network effect, it’s in realizing that it’s fucking useless in anything but scaring us away from leaving trap spaces.

            I think this is easier to understand now.

    • @KeenFlame@feddit.nu
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      58 months ago

      You say this- many people do but no one has made an alternative? So no it isn’t easy to make a video streaming site. Everyone just say “it’s too popular” that it has the entire audience but no, there just isn’t any good alternative anywhere. People don’t get how fast everyone would switch and how little anyone would look back if there was just any good alternative. Make one! Stop saying it’s easy and make one! You figure out how to stream consistently and have these response times and these peripheral functions if it’s so easy! It’s not easy. They obviously have a superior product and is now enshittening it so they can milk money from it

      • @rottingleaf@lemmy.zip
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        28 months ago

        but no one has made an alternative? So no it isn’t easy to make a video streaming site.

        This and all your further smartassery would be funny if the Web weren’t full of alternatives which technically work just as good or just as bad, just don’t have the network effect.

        Make one! Stop saying it’s easy and make one! You figure out how to stream consistently and have these response times and these peripheral functions if it’s so easy!

        I don’t think somebody saying that something is not needed should provide an implementation to support their words.

        Also I think something like Lemmy + BitTorrent support in browsers would solve the problem. It’s actually funny that you still can’t just use HTML5 video tag with a magnet link.

        • @KeenFlame@feddit.nu
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          28 months ago

          No they all suck

          Like a whole fucking lot

          And yes a torrent protocol for streaming media is a great idea but how. How do you seed so fast during watch, how does this not suck so much more than having local servers have your most likely to watch videos cached and ready like they do? It’s a very hard problem to make a product that can offer what they offer. And they abuse that fact

    • BoscoBear
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      48 months ago

      Seems like something like Gray Jay is a very easy way to transition off of these sources, too. Just have a source agnostic player.

      • @rottingleaf@lemmy.zip
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        28 months ago

        From what I see it still means using YouTube for people transitioning from it, just via its API or scraping or something.

        I meant that there’s no need to be afraid of losing YT.

        • BoscoBear
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          18 months ago

          But still getting off of YouTube as the source, right?

          Do I understand you correctly?

            • BoscoBear
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              18 months ago

              The reason I like Gray Jay is that it is source agnostic, so you can still use YouTube (because that is where the content is now) while also using other sources.

              I would like to see videos posted to ipfs.

  • @redcalcium@lemmy.instituteOP
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    Not sure if it’s related, but my youtube revanced installation was also not working. I had to repatch again using the most recent patch.

    • cum
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      Same, except it hasn’t worked since. I’ll get like 30 seconds in and it’ll buffer indefinitely

      • @nul9o9@lemmy.world
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        Did you install their new version of MicroG?

        If you did, you have to turn off “Google Device Registration” in the MicroG settings to stop it from buffering indefinitely.

      • @Pra@sh.itjust.works
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        68 months ago

        I force closed the app from settings and then that went away. I didn’t mess with anything else.

        • Black616Angel
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          18 months ago

          Same here, I was getting frustrated thinking, I had to root my phone or smth. and then a simple force close helped.

      • @Nick@mander.xyz
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        38 months ago

        This was happening to me until I repatched and reinstalled the app. I didn’t change anything between installs so I’m not sure what happened.