• loathsome dongeater
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      232 months ago

      Usa has been having elections since 1788 at what point do you think this change you talk about will come about?

      • halyk.the.red
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        Those in power will never allow those without to simply vote their way out of the traps. Whoever gets voted in later this year will simply be another head of the same monster.

        However, the first commenter has merit. We’re stuck in this awful system and need to do our best to set ourselves up for success.

        Unfortunately, luck plays such a huge part. Sacrifice and save and struggle to put away even a small amount, and one drunk driver can drain your account. No fault of your own, and now you’re on the brink of homelessness.

        The answer is in no way at the ballot box.

            • @HaSch@lemmygrad.ml
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              112 months ago
              1. No one here claims to be a revolutionary. We are an instance for memes and theory, we don’t even do organising like a union or a communist party, and we are certainly not a revolutionary cell.

              2. The “stop participating” argument is the most worn card in the deck of the anti-communist debater. Participation in the system is not like seal fur or tropical woods, you cannot live your life in a way that avoids it. Capitalism’s total commodification of basic human rights means you cannot even obtain food and shelter or receive life-saving care without taking part in it. Telling someone to “stop participating in the system” amounts to promoting suicide.

            • Dessalines
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              Have you actually tried any of your own suggestions?

              “stop using credit cards and paying taxes” lol

              • -6-6-6-
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                “Just get a loan (with credit), apply for federal programs that will deny you (with credit), get a cheap mortgage (with credit and bum-fuck nowhere+4 hour commute)

                “What, you don’t like that? Stop using credit-cards, commie.”

            • -6-6-6-
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              92 months ago

              Or…organize and consolidate power amongst the people around you.

              A good chunk of us participate in autonomy; growing our own food, going vegan, not participating in blatant consumerism and monopolized economy. There’s also quite a few posts that have been…removed… for talking about “revolutionary actions”. You can think about it for maybe two seconds if you pull those brain-cells together why that might be. HMMMMMMM.

              But yeah, thought-terminating cliché is the typical response of your kind when confronted with actual agitative ideals. It results in a sort of cognitive dissonance you have where that in order to be a revolutionary you gotta go full Uncle Ted or you’re just a illegitimate who doesn’t VOOOOOOTE for your bullshit genocidaires.

        • @ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml
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          That’s at least… interesting. There are still other options you could have taken. Why not a painting or drawing of Vostok?

          A generic ai filter cat? Booooo

          • @KrasnaiaZvezda@lemmygrad.ml
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            lol

            And actually, I wanted a Soviet, or other Communist country’s dirigible as a profile pic but I couldn’t find anything that would look good and neither the AI made anything I liked so when I managed to have it genarate this I took it.

            But thinking about it now I could probably try making/editing something myself as well, like I’ve done in forums long ago. Just need a good idea.

    • -6-6-6-
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      No thanks. I prefer organizing and agitating for direct change. When enough people do that; they can start doing things by force, however that may look. We are not here to “participate” in electoral politics, nor are we interested in “lessons” in how to succeed in the system.

      Your ignorance of the average American’s financial system is astounding. Millions live paycheck to paycheck. Even asking 1% of your paycheck can be the difference between actual meals and a pack of ramen. Additional part-time jobs are on the rise in guise of “Rising employment!”. The system that you’re giving us advice on how to “succeed” is completely built upon foundations of violence, exploitation and destruction of the human spirit, ecology/nature and civilization itself to which it spreads it’s cancerous doctrine by bloodied marching boot to nations that don’t heel towards the private interests of America.

      Lower interest rates don’t fix rental feudalism nor the ability for one to buy 20+ homes and influence local housing markets. Nor does it fix efforts by real-estate development to push lower-income people out and gentrify their neighorhoods. A ROTH IRA, 401k doesn’t pay my fucking 2,000 dollar+ rent in an area that has actual jobs to support the cost of rent. You shouldn’t HAVE fucking debt for education, healthcare, or for basic functions to grow and survive. Voting doesn’t fix a predatory system that demands pounds of flesh for existence.

      You can cherry-pick all the examples about whatever senseless nonsense about other nations; but no single one has a count of interventions and mass-destruction like America and the “system” you want us to “succeed” in.

      “Just buy a starter home and good luck on social security! Gotta give your retirement to private corporations!”

      western-journalist

      Here’s another one to any liberal out there: I’m not voting and a good chunk of this fucking board isn’t voting for genocide nor interested in participating in the circus.

      • @Halasham
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        Well said. Things will improve when the current dystopia is ash and bad memories.

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          Nothing like a armchair dweller telling us to act like “real revolutionaries” when all they can do is puke out voting websites and tell us to consume like a chaplain of genocide.