• @thingsiplay@beehaw.org
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    I’m fine with it, if its not invasive in privacy and does not collect all the information. And if its a bit better moderated.

    • @thingsiplay@beehaw.org
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      Why? Is it bad providing alternatives? Especially as it is Fediverse based, which is federated and not controlled by a single company. And being compatible to Fediverse protocol means you can use any application.

      Imagine something like Amazon, a central place you go and everyone who federates with it can sell products. I’m not against it.

    • @OhYeah@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      A decentralized marketplace would honestly be pretty sick as long as they can figure out how to ensure people don’t’t get scammed

      • hedgeOP
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        “Sick” as in “slick?” “Good?” (Going to add “clueless oldster” to the description on my BH profile page).

        Along the lines of a “Fediverse Amazon”, @petrescatraian@libranet.de told me about flohmarkt, which does look interesting. One of its instances can be viewed here.

        • @AndrasKrigare@beehaw.org
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          One note on “sick” being slang for “good”: that particular slang started in the 80s, and some of the younger generation consider it to be old person slang.

          • hedgeOP
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            31 hour ago

            So I’m even older than I thought?! 😱

      • @souperk@reddthat.com
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        IMO we need to break it in a few independent but cooperating decentralized systems;

        1. A transportation service where consumers will request the transportation of goods or people from point A to point B, and providers will make bids for those requests.
        2. A storage service where providers will offer storage of goods at specific locations, and consumers that make requests for the storage.
        3. A LC service, where two parties can enter an letter-of-credit (LC) contract, and providers can guarantee the contract.

        If these systems are available, it would be possible to implement additional decentralized services like;

        • Marketplaces.
        • Passenger transportation services.
        • Food delivery.
        • Probably many more.
  • 🦊 OneRedFox 🦊
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    The Pixelfed guy does good work, but video hosting/streaming is the most difficult use-case to compete in due to infrastructure costs; I’m interested to see how he’s planning to handle this and I wish him luck.

    • krimsonbun
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      I think that pixelfed guy has a big problem with commitment, he has so many unfinished/unpolished projects, and he’d be able to do so much more if he wasn’t starting something new every other month.

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        Yeah okay, so it sounds like he’s the kind of guy who’ll build a framework, or most of it, and won’t ever really become capable of hosting a lot of videos at a watchable quality.

        Technically he’ll probably have built something basically functional the community could rally behind and get going. But that won’t happen, because the people who care about the Fediverse are few, insufficiently resourceful, and most importantly don’t care about shorts.

        • Corgana
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          Not at all, Pixelfed is very polished and gets regular updates.

    • @unknowing8343@discuss.tchncs.de
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      Also there is no casino algorithm showing you what big data knows will make you stay for a while.

      In TikTok or instagram reels, you don’t follow people you like. You just watch stuff happening.

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        In TikTok or instagram reels, you don’t follow people you like. You just watch stuff happening.

        That’s actually the whole point of TikTok, what made it different when it started. An app for short videos where you follow people you like is more of a Snapchat competitor, not TikTok.

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      he mentioned in the past that the videos will be automatically deleted after some period of time, so that should make the storage situation a little bit more manageable.

    • Flax
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      I think streaming works best where people self host their own media tbf.

      • JohnEdwa
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        Self hosting isn’t really compatible with viral content, you do something that blows up and either get the hug of death or go bankrupt from the bandwidth costs.

        • 0x1C3B00DA
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          Maybe the problem in that equation is the expectation of virality and not self hosting?

          • @teawrecks@sopuli.xyz
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            It doesn’t matter if virality is the goal, unless you’re suggesting it be actively prevented, virality is just a natural phenomenon of the internet. The term viral generally implies uncontrolled exponential spread. To this day, stuff goes viral without people intending it to.

            And if you architect the system to scale a p2p network proportional to virality (ex. as people share it, they also self-host) you run into a ton of security and abuse challenges. We’re also stretching the definition of “self-hosting” at this point.

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              Self hosting isn’t really compatible with viral content

              The post I was replying to claimed virality and self hosting are at odds with one another because it causes skyrocketing expense. My point was that maybe someone selfhosting a server in the fediverse is not as interested in virality. And I doubt even the most viral posts in the fediverse would break the bank of a selfhoster

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            We are talking about a TikTok alternative. If getting as many people as possible to see your stuff isn’t your goal, then why would you post it in the first place?
            Making your content go viral is pretty much literally the only point.

            • 0x1C3B00DA
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              Virality is nowhere near the only reason for posting videos. People post them to make jokes, teach something, reply to someone else, etc, or all the same reasons someone might make a blogpost or a post on a link aggregator.

    • aname
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      Snapchat would have been easier in that sense

  • originalucifer
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    no actual product available, lets spam it everywhere. awesome.

    hard not to feel like someone isnt countin eggs as chickens here

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    I signed up and never got the verification email. It happened to basically everyone else that signed up too. Weird. Looks like the “official launch” was actually the “beginning of beta test”, weird how they marketed it as an “official launch”.

    • @noodlejetski@lemm.ee
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      the creator delayed the launch because he had to write the legalese for the service, and on top of that I think he’s waiting for the app stores to approve the app (the service isn’t available through a browser).

      • 0x1C3B00DA
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        Theres no web app? That seems short sighted. You apparently cant access anything without logging either. I dont expect these shorts to get much viewership if you have to register and download an app to see anything. It also doesnt seem in the spirit of the fediverse

      • @dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de
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        I doubt that. From what he said somewhere on Pixelfed, the beta is only on Android right now and you don’t need approval to publish something on the Play Store. From personal experience, apps appear within a couple of minutes. On iOS, the usual approval time would be 3-4 days.

        • Emily (she/her)
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          You definitely need approval to publish on the Play Store. It’s just more basic

          • @dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de
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            14 hours ago

            Ah alright, then they must have changed it since I last added a new app. The last few years I just published updates and they all went through almost immediately.

    • @ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee
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      I don’t have TikTok myself but having seen my friends show videos from their screen I think it’s absolutely hideous how half of the video is covered with comments and buttons and shit. That would be a total dealbreaker for me.