Jerry Coyne, Steven Pinker, and Richard Dawkins are big mad that FFRF removed an anti-trans article from their website
Why is there a church like organisation for Atheists? And Darwin quitting because he disagrees with the gospel is hillarious.
The same reason every other minority advocacy group exists: to coordinate pooling resources to protect that minority’s members from persecution.
Of course in the case of atheists, that persecution isn’t as bad as for other minority groups in the US, but it does exist: there is propaganda saying that atheists can’t be moral and other shit like this that can seriously affect your life.
So optimally that’s what the organization would fight. I know nothing about them, so I don’t know where the “church-likeness” comes from that you mentioned. Care to substantiate that?
Well, FFRF runs programs actively protects Clergymen and women attempting to leave their faiths, and I can guarantee you those particular people are heavily persecuted. Especially former Mormons.
In as few words as possible, it’s a nonprofit org that runs some social programs like helping clergymen escape the church, a magazine, some radio shows, and they actively engages in lawsuits where religion enters matters of the state. They sued the Bush Administration for using public funds for religious communities.
Technically, they are exempt from taxes as an 501(c)(3) Organization, but they could lose that exempt status if the managers and their immediate community benefit too much from the organization in a single year, unlike religions who are tax exempt even at massive profits.
This is interesting. I wonder if they will start another denomination? How many denominations could we end up with?!?
If you want to read the original article that set this in motion, here it is:
https://web.archive.org/web/20241227095242/https://freethoughtnow.org/biology-is-not-bigotry/
Anti-theism > atheism
Three
prominent atheistsold farts who’s glory days are behind them and who refused to change and grow with the cultureresigned from FFRF’s Honorary Board.fortified their comfort zone and made themselves even more irrelevant than they already were. Good riddance.Old men yell at cloud.
Thanks to FFRF for making me aware that Pinker is a shithead, I had no idea
Atheists can be just as shitty as anyone else. Good riddance to these three asswipes.
Years ago I followed dawkins, then I realized what a decroded piece of crap he is. So this does not surprise me in the least.
FFRF responded by taking down Coyne’s piece and publishing a hastily written letter restating their support for LGBTQ rights. The letter didn’t explain how the article got approved in the first place. The words “sorry” or “apology” or “yeah, we really fucked this one up” didn’t appear anywhere in it. Dr. Aaron Rabinowitz, ethics director at the Creator Accountability Network, told me he was hoping to see a more direct challenge to what Coyne got wrong in order to justify their removal of the piece:
This is so fucking stupid.
Like.
Objections to anything trans is almost certainly rooted in religious fruit cakery. (half baked fruit cakes at that,)
It should be self evident that they need to apologize and condemn the bigotry; and there needs to be accountability, starting with an actual and sincere apology and transparency in how this fuck up was allowed to happen in the first place, and a discussion of steps being taken to prevent it from happening again.
The “cultural Christian” Richard Dawkins pfft. Good riddance. What a sellout.
Truly disgusting. The culture of genocide, slavery, and colonialism with only the thinnest veneer of decency haphazardly draped over it and people who could see through the big lie about it become entangled in its trappings for fucking what?
“I got sexually abused by a clergyman and it didn’t do me any harm” Richard Dawkins.
…and it’d be unfair if the next generation didn’t also get nonced
Nice to see people on Lemmy realizing what a bigoted shithead Dawkins is. I couldn’t convince very many people of that on r/atheism.
I’ve known Dawkins was a shithead for a while, but somehow I’ve missed Pinker being one as well. The fact they are trying to get help from JK Rowling shows they are much bigger pieces of shit than I originally thought.
I’ve donated to the FFRF for a while. I’ll have to wait and see how this shakes out.
Pinker has been the Pangloss du jour for as long as I’ve known about him, only recently replaced/supplemented by Harari.
Pinker keeps a lower profile, but there have been a lot of questionable things he’s said in the past.
Oh god, he seems to be milling about the Longtermism crowd, which believes that future (potential) people have as many rights as current people, so any theoretical gains that effect future people are worth doing, even at the expense of current ones,
Billionaires and powerful political people all are jumping on that bullshit.
Ick. That one is new to me. But it makes a lot of sense.
Damn, I used to follow Dr. Coyne’s blog and really looked up to him. That was probably more than 15 years ago though. Sad to see him go this direction. I learned a lot about biology from him, and the arguments made in bad faith about it.
He of all people should know better.
That asshole said “if I don’t like it, it’s political.”
