I don’t want Greenland, I just want you to stop bombing kids and work on our Healthcare. Why on the fuck are you even looking at Greenland???
Best I can do is a Central American shooting war.
Goddamn we suck so hard right now.
Don’t even have to ask if we are the baddies
Yeah, I think that’s one of the scariest things. Previous presidents have done a lot of terrible things, but there’s always been a basic rhetoric of morality- at oeast a pretence that official policy us “the right thing”.
The US’s latest bunch of clown have openly hateful and dishonest language, without any sense of shame. I don’t even think we’ve seen the beginning of the level of cruelty a country can achieve when it suddenly abandons any rule of law or accountability.
“but there’s always been a basic rhetoric of morality- at oeast a pretence that official policy us “the right thing””
That’s what they taught me in school. It’s absolutely bullshit. This country was built on genocide to perpetrate slavery. It’s a warmongering nation that destroys other countries to ensure its own economic dominance on the world stage.
I can’t believe so many people voted for this deranged game show host.
All of a sudden the conservative rhetoric is that indigenous Greenlanders are mistreated by the Danes and that’s unfair; they need America’s help.
That’s such transparently stupid bullshit. If they believed that they’d start by helping indigenous Americans. It sickens me that so many people are idiotic enough to either believe this or just not care.
It’s sickening and fucking enraging. It puts my mind for a spin.
I wonder how much of Regressive rhetoric and propaganda comes straight out of the heritage foundation. Where is the epicenter of the cancer?
These fascists need to dangle 🥰
When the hell will the military arrest this stinky Orange Turd as an enemy to the state?
They’re on board with him. Invasions create job security for them. The military won’t care until they’re told to fire on Americans, and even then a large part won’t care, as long as they’re firing on the “wrong” kind of people.
There is no way this lunacy ends in a civil arrest.
While Hedgeseth runs the Pentagon? Never.
If he actually orders an invasion of Greenland I’d put the odds at around 12%. My guess is around 60% the military will refuse to carry out the order (it would be after all in violation of the War Powers Resolution unless congress approves), then 80% chance Trump will back down. Of course that’s if he gives the order, my guess of that is around 30%, reducing the odds of a greenland-related coup to around 4%. In reality the most likely path is that once the military explains to Trump that they want congressional approval, he’ll lose interest and go on to scaring us some other way.
Complicity tends to be the norm until things get really bad.
a strange part of me wants to see this go as badly as possible because that’s how much I hate Donald Trump and all of the Americans who voted for him and the ones who didn’t vote. but that’s me being an angry psychopath right? I shouldn’t feel this way or want these things. they’re really bad
I have full confidence that the US Military could take Greenland, I don’t have confidence that the US could deal with the international fallout that would come from it.
That depends. Has Russia started a land war across the entire Eastern front at the same time?
Then it might be a bit tough for Europe to do anything about Greenland. It’s almost like the whole ‘we need to take Canada’ rhetoric is pre-emptive, knowing Canada would be the most dangerous remaining opponent to such a plan, should Europe be busy… for some reason. Take Canada and Greenland at roughly the same time. Tie them down while Europe is busy. The US ends up owning Greenland. And, if things fall out wrong, Canada, too - though it might not be a primary goal.
From that point, Russia and the US divide Europe between them.
Is this an insane plan? Yep. Would it work? Doubtful. Is it the potential thinking of the fascist dickheads in charge, despite that? I suspect so.
Does Russia have enough male population left to fight a big war? They’ve killed off a good chunk of them in Ukraine already.
yes
I would like to believe not that the worst happens to the USA, because of the damage that could do globally. But, I do hope that if Trump tried to take Greenland unprovoked that the citizens would not stand for it.
A hope that is quickly dwindling…
there’s nothing that makes me think that anyone would stop him. The entire path of the country would simply shift indefinitely, as per the principles of democracy
I’m in a similar boat. I hate that these people have turned me into someone who has such disdain and hatred for individuals. I hate that they’ve made me into someone who wakes up everyday with a deep-seated desire to read about their deaths.
I fucking hate it. I don’t want to be that person.
I’ve developed misanthropic tendencies over the last couple of years.
I find this lyric sums it up pretty well
“I used to see beauty in people But now I see muscle and bones”
- Cruel World by Phantogram
It’s all fun and games unless you’re in the pointy end of the stick
I wonder if Americans will wake up and start to push back when they and their families start dying for this stuff. Taking over other countries means death and not just to those who are being taken over.
It took soldiers freezing and dying in Stalingrad to realize Hitler didn’t care about them.
Push back how?
You lack imagination.
By playing a wholllllle lot of Minecraft ;)
Nice try, Donvict. You and your coward yes-men have their incompetence signal exposed and the distractions aren’t working anymore. Please resign! We need Republican Senators to grow a spine, be pro-USA, not tolerate incompetent national security, and impeach this loser.
Im out of the loop on this. Why does the US want greenland?
Whole lotta minerals that will get a lot easier to exploite as the planet warms.
Mining minerals to turn into phones so I can read about how bad of an ecological impact it is to mine minerals to turn into phones.
Same reason he just cut Australia out of an illegal deep sea mining contract and why he’ll cut the western saharans out of their homeland and take the minerals from Morocco.
Cause he’s starting a super edgelord team of billionaires who’s trying to stack the deck for the next 200 years.
his bois require more minerals
So what he’s telling us is that he’s wanting to fight a war on two fronts: one from within and one from without. I see. Very well then. He’s made his bed.
Really now? Including World War 3?
Come on UK. We need a Bond. James Luigi Bond to right this ship.
Nah bone spurs!
He just announced foreign vehicle tariffs and there is a huge scandal brewing around the Signal thing. If the media stays on the Signal leak it could become a Watergate-sized problem.
So, Trump hit the “distract them with Greenland” button. He couldn’t use the “distract them with Canada is a state” button again, he used that one for the Social Security thing last week.
I think it’s really dangerous to keep dismissing the Greenland talk as a distraction. We have learned the lesson dozens of times before not to dismiss anything he says because it’s just “crazy talk.”
Taking control of Greenland and Canada would give a US-Russian alliance complete control over the Arctic circle, which has been a tactical goal of Putin’s for decades.
The day could come very soon when the US will take military action against Europe on behalf of Russian interests, and the rest of the world should take it seriously and prepare.
Every time an American claims something is just a distraction I get more annoyed. Threats of invading sovereign nations is not just a distraction. It’s pretty fucking alarming as a citizen of one of those nations and the dismissal of it is offensive
It’s pretty alarming as a citizen of the US as well. But our conservatives are upset over the signal leak and indifferent to the invasion of Greenland, so if we let trump distract is with the signal leak you lose.
It’s all crazy talk until the flights of American troops and equipment start landing for an occupation force.
Scary times ahead for all, and Americans will struggle the most.
Scary times ahead for all, and Americans will struggle the most.
Well, except for the innocent people who will be invaded…
and Americans will struggle the most.
I keep trying to encourage Americans to put in the effort to stop Trump and his sycophants/minions from escalating this trade war into a shooting war.
So far they either ask me for a detailed plan to save their country from itself or say its pointless to even try…
Some of us are taking steps to resist, including but not limited to protests. It is clearly not anywhere close to enough people, but the discontent and resistance is growing. Sadly, most people are shockingly apathetic about such things, yet act like sportsball is the most important thing in the world.
You don’t understand.
People, everyday Americans don’t matter at all.
The trade war will destroy him, not because it hurts regular Americans, but because it hurts the rich and pisses them off and nobody messes with their meal ticket.
The trade war appears to be about market manipulation. And sewing distrust of America. By repeatedly flip flopping they can buy and sell and make a killing in the markets. His wealthy allies are in on it and won’t care at all.
This is what he was elected to do and it won’t hurt him at all with the people who matter.
It’s about dividing the West so the oligarchs, all the oligarchs everywhere, can take control.
Stupid oligarchs, China knows no such rules.
That’s what I intended with sewing distrust. It certainly looks like market manipulation to me as well though.
Believe me, I see the danger. I harbor no illusions that they wouldn’t go that far or that it’s just a distraction. Nothing is just a distraction, everything they say is an admission. I guess my point was Americans need to keep their eyes on this Signal thing because of how it could blow up but Trump knows how to distract so this week it’s Greenland, and next time it will be Canada again. When they have the power and the courts are nutted, then it won’t be a distraction but an action.
If they push this signal thing it just might crack. Then maybe set them back a few months or a year. Then we can have the midterms and maybe just maybe get a handle on some of this shit.
I have had 4 double shots of espresso since lunch so I am rambling lol good luck homie everyone is going to need it.
He’s 100% serious and also using it as a distraction. Both things are true. For some reason everyone cares about the signal leak and only about half of us care about invading Greenland, or rendering immigrants to a slave prison.
Signal is a weakness and Greenland is an attempt at distraction. He fully intends to invade, but distraction is why he’s talking about it right now.
I remember talking to this dude before Russia invaded Ukraine. He said Russia brought all the troops to the border for a military training exercise. I asked him where he learned that. He told me Russian state media… It’s amazing how gullible people are. Like truly so innocent and trusting.
He’s flooded the zone with shit to the point that we can’t focus on any of it with the attention it deserves.
Yeah he led an insurrection against the capital bro. Do you really think a group chat will be his downfall?
Nowhere in there did I say it would bring down Trump. If it gets the media traction that it should get, it could split the Republican base enough to disrupt the Right’s hold on the House and Senate in November. I don’t think it will, though. The Greenland distraction has pretty much drowned it out. JD is over there going hard for his daddy, and we are not even through the weekend yet. As the old man said, “We will see.”
I feel like if Watergate happened half the country and most of Congress would find some way of justifying it and no one would even remember it happened a week later because something else equally insane would come up.
Watergate is such a tiny thing in comparison to what tiny hands has done. He has brought a mob to the capital to overthrow the government. Now he is just destroying the government from inside.
… because overthrow from without is soooo 2021
