• Sentient Loom
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    18929 days ago

    “Anarchist” lololol

    Yeah, using the corporate product that stole all individuals’ work to regurgitate abortions from billionaire oligarch’s algorithms is totally “anarchist.”

    • Comrade Spood
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      5629 days ago

      Exactly. I remember in Conquest of Bread when Kropotkin talked about freeing up more time by automating creative and intelligent pursuits so we can focus more on menial labor.

      Obviously /s

    • Tar_Alcaran
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      It’s not stealing if there are no rules whatsoever, which is exactly what anarchy is!

      /S

      • Sentient Loom
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        29 days ago

        There are rules. But rich people don’t have to follow them. It’s domination. Not anarchy/anarchism.

        Edit: Okay now I see the /S. Not deleting though lol.

    • @nialv7@lemmy.world
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      Uhhh I will get downvoted but I have to say, anarchocapitalism is still anarchism. And obviously disrespecting property rights is a very anarchist thing to do, so.

      And many AI models you can run completely on your own hardware, no billionaire oligarchies have a say in what you do.

      • @ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
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        729 days ago

        Most anarcho-capitalists, especially the Curtis Yarvin types, just want fascism, but with Inc. at the end, and call their dictator “Chief Executive Officer”.

      • @ameancow@lemmy.world
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        428 days ago

        anarchocapitalism is still anarchism

        Sounds more like people who want to have luxuries and comforts and money but don’t want to have anyone telling them what they can and can’t do.

        Sounds about right for the current fascist techbro community.

    • @niktemadur@lemmy.world
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      bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL aMiRiTe… i’M sUcH aN aNaRcHiSt HyUcK hYuCk HyUcK!!!

      It’s like these mentally lazy ignorant people look all around themselves, see how the horizon is basically at the same distance all around them, therefore conclude that they must be the center of the universe, then sprinkle in a few fashionable internet soundbites and catchphrases to “make themselves sound interesting” and “with it”.

    • 100_kg_90_de_belin
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      328 days ago

      Anyone who claims “AI = anarchy” deserves to have a canvas broken on its head cartoon style

    • @anomnom@sh.itjust.works
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      128 days ago

      What classic art is transphobic. Lots of renaissance artists were LGB, the T came out when many of them painted themselves into biblical characters of different genders. It gets written off as because using themselves as models was more available than models, or vanity, but transphobic is far from the first description I’d come up with for the art history I learned.

    • @spujb@lemmy.cafeOP
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      228 days ago

      sorry consider the bait spread i personally have the opinion that bait inoculation is possible

    • Bahnd Rollard
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      Thats the scary part, in 2023 that was a good way to identify AI slop. Its getting tricky now and you need an eye for detail and lighting. By 2027, I fear people wont be able to tell the difference.

      • @WuceBrillis@lemm.ee
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        Next up is music. It’ll start with jingles and the background music for commercials, then background music for movies and eventually most of the beats you hear on the radio will be made by AI.

        I think the industry will still want to have real singers, so they can still make money on concerts. But the AI will be writing a lot of the lyrics for many of the big pop hits.

        Your kids will be fed this garbage all throughout their childhood, and when they’re old enough to develop a critical sense they will just be used to it.

        • I mean have you seen the slop the music industry is already putting out? Top 40 pop stars have been overproduced manufactured garbage for literal decades, what difference does it make if its one producer writing all the shitty samples and lyrics for 100 pop stars or if its AI. Real music will still exist and the true art will be confined to the fringes, as it already mostly is. Soulless music is soulless regardles of if its being made by a machine or a hack.

        • @TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip
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          428 days ago

          Next up is music. It’ll start with jingles and the background music for commercials, then background music for movies and eventually most of the beats you hear on the radio will be made by AI.

          Suno is already making ‘Radio Quality Pop’ music, of course because ‘Radio Quality Pop’ music is a very low bar

      • Tar_Alcaran
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        The impact per work of AI vs, say, a set of pighair brushes is massively higher.

        Which is the fairest way of comparing them, per artwork.

        • @Grimy@lemmy.world
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          There’s probably a bigger impact when you consider how paint and brushes are manufactured and the fact that it’s most likely shipped here from other countries.

          It’s also laughable how little actual energy one picture takes to generate.

          It’s a non starter when you actual compare it to something physical. It’s like saying sending a normal letter is better for the environment then an email.

          • @mutual_ayed@sh.itjust.works
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            The issue is the infrastructure and scale. Hundreds of thousands of these images are created every day.

            I don’t know your workflow but it usually takes quite a few iterations before someone gets the image they want. It’s the literal definition of inefficiency because its rebuilding the diffusion every time, be that from cached memory or a new vector path.

        • @Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de
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          529 days ago

          Both of those things have a really small impact, to the point that it doesn’t matter. Generating one picture using AI takes like 30 seconds of your GPU running at full power. Besides, I don’t think that’s a fair comparison in the first place. Pighair brushes are not the main animal product people consume and generating something using AI models isn’t what’s using the majority of the energy but training the models is. The metric that’s actually important is what both industries as a whole are contributing to climate change, otherwise we can just keep picking examples that prove the other one wrong.

          • Lololololololololol. No. Unless you have a massively expensive GPU, no. The image is not being generated by your device. It’s being generated by a mile wide server bank that churns through petrochemicals like a city all on its own. That’s the part of AI people are talking about when they reference it being bad for the environment. And if you do own a massively expensive GPU and generate AI images offline, you are not part of the conversation because your activities are an ounce in an ocean.

  • @HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    This feels just like the twitter men roleplaying as women saying that they love misogyny.

    They’re using “woke” language to promote anti-woke subjects.

  • Wren
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    1928 days ago

    I pressed the demo button on a keyboard in a music store once.

    My second album will be out next month if anyone is interested.

    • @Hobo@lemmy.world
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      729 days ago

      The title assured me that this was not satire. Since I have no critical thinking skills I’m not sure who to believe.

  • @finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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    -More Creative
    -Creates the same thing over and over
    -Cannot create new things like an overfull wine glass without reference images

    • @daannii@lemmy.world
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      The only thing it can do is regurgitate.

      I think it has some value. I’ve been enjoying political deep fakes. Like that one of trump sucking musk toes.

      I also think AI has some value for artist to use as a tool. Not to fully create pieces but to help.

      If it’s used in that way it’s more ethical.

      In contrast I’ve been using software in a similar way for at least 20 years. For instance, if I’m working on a painting, I often start with a real photograph. (My own or free to use reference image from a source giving permission).

      I put it in Photoshop and use filters to increase edge contrast. Then I create a sketch over it. I print the sketch to scale and then transfer it to my canvas or paper. Or use it to make digital painting.

      Another thing I do is use filters in Photoshop (the cutout one) to help me better able to see blocks of color changes. Because human perception makes it difficult for us to actually perceive these.

      I then reference that image during the painting process.

      Now that’s not using AI. But I am using software. Ai can be used similarly though.

      With a specific AI you can apply a painting style of one image to another. This was actually the first free AI type art. It was called deep dream or something like that. About 5 years ago. The website is still up but doesn’t offer this anymore. But I found one that does.

      So yeah you upload two images. A photo you took. And a painting you made. And set the percentage of change.

      And it can help you plan a painting by making a version that will have your painting style applied. It’s actually kinda awesome.

      But as you can imagine you could upload someone else’s photograph. And someone else’s art piece.

      Stealing their style.

      I still think this specific AI tool has the most value for artist to use.