Back in my day phones actually had the ports people wanted.
But but my new phone is 3 microns thinner!
Sure we lost all the ports people actually needed, but 3 microns man!
3 microns thinner and 5 cm longer! oh you want to fit your phone in your pocket comfortably? how about you go fuck yourself
I’m in! Here’s my wheelbarrow of cash!
But but my new phone is 3 microns thinner!
If only. My Galaxy S8 from 2018 had a 3.5mm socket and it was thinner than my current iPhone 16e.
Yes but now you can also have 17 camera lenses bulging out the back!
get a 30 dollar dac. small and sounds much better, and its shielded.
There is nothing that will ever be as good as the LG V20 was.
Built in high-end DAC, removable battery, and the fucker came apart in 16 Phillips head screws.
ir blaster! i still have a v20 with lineage OS but it is sluggish.
Does the dac perform well with lineage? I’m contemplating getting one as a music player
my headphone port is really dirty so i haven’t used it much like that by that point.
but the DAC settings are there!
Using mine right this very moment.
“Bro, look at this concept art of a cyborg girl listening to music with wireless earbuds! Wouldn’t it be cool if you could have the same technology real life? Bro, just stop being a Luddite for two seconds, having to charge a second device is not a big inconvenience for looking like the future!”
ITT: Apple customers think everyone is as bad at purchasing decisions as they are.
I refuse to get a phone without a headphone jack. Mostly because I know I’m inevitably going to lose my headphones, forget to charge them, forget them in my trouser pockets that will go in the wash. The latter has happened at least a couple of times with my current headphones and they still work just fine. Try that with your Bluetooth pair and let me know how it goes.
I just got a USB DAC for $12. If also has a type C pass through. It’s so small it stays permanently attached to my wired headphones.
It’s a fairly complete solution tbh.
My main issue with external DACs is how fast they drain my battery…
I’m still rocking a 7-year-old Galaxy S9+. A few years ago my headphone jack wore out and the gapped hole no longer retains my earbud cable. Since then, I’ve been using a USB-C adapter, but the combined earbud and charging use is starting to take it’s toll and the port is beginning to feel loose. I’m convinced that if I was limited to USB only over the full life of this phone, I would have lost wired headphone and wired charging capability a long time ago. I wish you well with your singular bottleneck port.
My Bluetooth bone induction headphones survived a month in the bottom of a dishwasher.
As soon as you stop having a cord get caught on everything in your life and get used to pausing/playing with a tap to the ear it all clicks.
But yea the raycon/airpod models don’t appeal to me.
Just run the wire through your shirt and they never catch and you have the added bonus of your shirt catching earbuds that fall out. Not only that, but your phone doesn’t need to be charged halfway through the day.
When I used wireless headphones, either my phone or headphones would die in the middle of a shift, even with my phone at 100% at shift start. With wired headphones, I’d still have 30-40% battery left even after long 10-12 hour shifts. Wireless just aren’t worth the hassle between battery draining and running around looking where they roll after falling out of your ear.
That’s impressive, do you remember which headphones those were?
I still have one in my phone, and external SD card storage too. Another thing that they want gone (cloud storage agenda).
I miss having an SD card slot…
Me too, my guilty pleasure gacha game are only getting bigger. 64 gigs doesn’t cut it anymore.
Still my criterion when looking to buy a phone.
My phone still has an aux jack : humble brag:
It’s a pixel 3a from at least 6 years ago :opposite of a humble brag:
…I actually love the shape and function of this phone. I only wish it had security updates, and didn’t have Google.
Pixel 4a here. Great phone, just in desperate need of a battery replacement. Checking ifixit the risk of breaking the display while opening the phone seems quite high :/
Yes, I spent years breaking the screen of this phone and eventually replacing it. I’ve finally got a screen protector and it’s been great… But the screen will almost certainly crack when you remove it. Bummer about the extra cost.
isn’t that pixel really well supported by postmarketos?
What is a postmarketeo??
it’s a linux distribution for mobile devices, it’s not really production ready but still really fun to play around with
Any luck? Or have you been using a 10year old phone because the stupid phone manufacturers think following Apple is a good idea
Samsung Galaxy Xcover 6pro has been pretty good for me. It has a headphone jack, SD card slot, and a removable battery. The specs aren’t the top of the line, but as long as I’m not playing games on my phone it gets the job done.
Redmagic phones have very high specs and a jack
Sony Xperia is still going and has headphones jacks.
And an SD card slot, I absolutely love mine!
I genuinely can’t believe they took away the microsd slot from modern phones
I even pre bought a card before getting my new phone because I just assumed it’d have the slot. Should’ve done more research i guess
Gonna have to double check the next phone I buy has a screen first
I got an Asus zenfone 10 and it has one (and is also a small phone which is also hard to find now)
The Samsung Galaxy A15 5G has an audio jack and is somewhat recent. It’s a budget phone, though. The spec’s aren’t the best, but the price point is nice. If you wanted to listen to flac over wired headphones, that would work well.
I think the last S series that had the jack was the s10 from 2020
I accidentally got one. Woo!
Here’s your phone, sir.
“I ordered spaghetti”
Its on the house sir, my apologies
Sony if that’s in your budget.
edit: or Motorola if it isn’t (check specific models, ymmv)
Sony Xperias have 3.5mm jacks again. A few of them are also supported by LineageOS and Sailfish OS, so you’re not necessarily stuck in the Google ecosystem.
Tell me about it! I still buy IEM’s because of their incredible sound, yet I have to use dongle for my main phone. IEM brands have been also producing USB-C outputs, but yet not good IMO.
Lucky that I have an LG-vq40, which has audio jack, so I use it as a audio device. Thicker phone than my main, yet has audio jack.Yeah it’s sad that LG didn’t maintain that niche of high quality DAC jack phones. Also still stuck with my V30…
I’m going to do what I do in every thread mentioning a headphone jack: Say I don’t mind Bluetooth and get downvoted.
I know a lot of people that lost their headphones, I don’t have that issue.
Also I’m a musician with pretty good custom IEMs. I have to use a very energy hungry external DAC (and while that I can’t easily charge), if I wouldn’t still have a jack (with a very good DAC)
“it works for my use case”
Good for you? I prefer having headphones I don’t need to charge and that won’t take my phone’s only USB port, so while you personally might not find it useful, a use case for the 3.5mm jack clearly still exists.
BT is good, but anything wired is (and always will be) better and more reliable while being a little less convenient (with some exceptions)
Unless I’m paying for $1600 audio cables my noise-damaged ears can’t tell the difference and I like that I don’t rip things out of them.
audio cables don’t matter beyond the $5 range. what you’re experiencing with expensive cables is placebo in that case. for me the annoyances with bluetooth are:
- lag
- a/v resync
- high pitched hiss
- having to keep headphones that used to just plug into the phone charged
- the fact that bluetooth headphones degrade over time, giving them less longevity than wired
- interference
i understand there are people in this thread that don’t miss headphone jacks, but to act like bluetooth is flat superior is to ignore that bluetooth has genuine downsides that just a wire doesn’t
Don’t forget audio quality drop when switching from audio only to audio + microphone. Shit drives me up the wall.
Does your fetish extend to pickles as well or in something vital lost in the pickling process?
oh god, it’s so noticable
I’m an avid fanboy of Bluetooth on mobile. Its not “better in every way” but when I’m out and about, it is.
- I don’t have the lag issue because I only listen to music with it. But this is an issue, and while it’s better it’s still not consistent enough.
- A/V resync maybe this is just luck but I have had resync issues with Bluetooth in like half a decade? Outside of my phone just sometimes not connecting to them or something.
- High pitched hiss - actually not sure what you mean by this because anything better than $1 ear buds won’t have the hiss, and $1 wired ear buds are going to hiss after 1 month when the cable deteriorates
- Wired headphones also degrade over time. Especially when you’re out on the go and they get snagged, tangled in pockets, etc. I got my current earbuds for Christmas in 2019 and they are still going strong.
- Interference - again I’m curious to see what earbuds you’ve used in the last ~5 years. This really isn’t a problem any more unless you’re 10+ meters from your phone or leave it next to the microwave anymore.
Anyways, i don’t expect this to change your mind. It just seems like these “critiques” of Bluetooth earbuds have literally never changed even though the tech has gotten orders of magnitude better in the last decade or so.
- yeah music is fine, mostly
- my $40 bluetooth set needs resync like once a day. it happens automatically, but while it does everything stutters
- i get high pitched hiss on ALL bluetooth, even $300 sets. i think i’m just sensitive to it. i hate it
- when the cable degrades i buy a new cable
- i run into issues with interference with all bluetooth devices about once a month here where i am. i’m near a military post though, so who knows what they’re pumping out
Lag
So it essentially makes BT win vs wires by 2:1
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I’ve never had a 3.5 fail, are you sure it’s not just getting clogged with dirt or something?
The fiddling I have to do when trying to get the audio sounding right on my computer when I plug in my headphones is absolute torture, and if I barely graze the wire with my feet then all of a sudden the audio comes from just the left side, or is muffled, or something else ;w;
that’s a broken headphone, treat yourself to a nice pair of IEMs, they’re not that expensive
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like the metal bit?? how???
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How have you bent a 3.5mm connector? They are solid metal. I’ve broke 3.5mm jacks but never bent the connector.
More reliable until the port fails.
And so can BT
Tbh i didn’t have any problems with 3.5mm. It always worked for me (even when used in odd ways and angles).
To be clear. I actually like BT and the ways it opens in terms of various accessories, but BT has its drawbacks while analog ports. That’s why i would prefer to have both BT and physical port (in case of BT failing)
I have never had a port fail. Were iPods really that low quality? I use them just about every day
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Every argument I have ever heard boils down to “in my specific use-case because of X Y Z and Purple, all the benefits of wired are irrelevant” and the people espousing such opinions don’t at all take into consideration that other people exists and their specific use-case is not at all widely experienced.
“My tinnitus means I can’t distinguish high tones well” okay buddy, but how many other people enjoy distinct highs?
“I move around too much so Bluetooth is the only practical solution” okay my friend, but many people either don’t have that problem, or they’ve found a solution.
imagine a time where phones have Bluetooth and and go on the aux
The magical time of 2017, where devices could have Bluetooth 5 and a headphone jack.
I have a genuine issue that I’d love to get your ideas on.
When I am walking around with my bluetooth headphones in what I assume are places with lots of other signals, the audio goes to complete shit as if I’m on a bumpy road in a car listening to a super skippy CD.
How can I avoid that? It works perfectly when I’m on a bus or at home…
The only time I ever experience this with Bluetooth is when I’m a foot away or less from a running microwave. Or fifty feet away from the connection point. I’ve never had any other signals interfere, at least not that I notice.
Be around fewer people.
downvot tiem
Thanks
It depends. Had that issue a while back, personally found it was only when I was connected to 2.4 ghz wifi, which is the same frequency as Bluetooth. I haven’t really had the issue on my current phone (except in areas where it’s really windy), but it does have Bluetooth 5.0 so that might be part of it because it’s a massive upgrade from Bluetooth prior.
I had two generations of phones with never-used headphone jacks before I happened to get one without it. I almost got a Moto Z though.
I don’t mind it either and do have both, but sometimes i get interference when i’m close to people (which is when i wanna to use the earphones) and i complain about the lack of the port not because bluetooth is shit, but because is importante to have the option
I’ll do something similar.
What headphones do you use on your Switch? Or on an airplane? Or a regional bus?
How is the experience switching from your phone, to your laptop, to your tablet, to your Steam Deck?
I gave you an upvote. I’m extremely happy with my BT ear buds.
And my phone syncs up easily and quickly on anything I use. I literally just connected to a work truck that I haven’t been in for months. Took 3 clicks of buttons to setup.
I still have one, really don’t want to get a new phone that doesn’t. I still use my earbuds all the time
A simple couple wires that work without pairing, without drivers, without 3 separate volume controls, and worked on the terribly complicated premise of inserting a plug into a hole. Next thing they’ll try and say speakers need a dozen micro wires on a special propriety cable to do what they do better.
without drivers
All headphones have drivers :^)
Man, what are you driving that you need headphones, all my cars have built in stereos…
I think it may have been a joke ;)
The “driver” is a part of a speaker that actually makes the physical motion that makes the sound. So all speakers do have drivers haha
They were joking too ig, it’s all good lol
that’s so cool! thanks for sharing
I got a pair of wired earbuds for $20 at my drug store and the audio quality and build quality is really serviceable. I would probably have to pay at least $60 or $70 for a similar build and audio quality with Bluetooth earbuds.
And this is the reason why apple and other companies jump on the trend. Many of these manufacturers also sell Bluetooth headphones and they want people to buy them instead of cheaper wired ones.
Some of them make excuses but this is one of the primary reasons, and some of the excuses are so transparently stupid it isn’t even funny. Like saying they removed it so people can use Bluetooth headphones (as if presence of the headphone jack prevents use of Bluetooth headphones 🙄).
I regret buying one without it.
I bought pixel 6a, mainly for graphene os but didn’t install it because I wouldn’t be able to use Google pay. My main things why I regret getting it is that there’s no headphone jack and no SD card slot. Thought it wouldn’t be that bad but… It is that bad. Next time I’m getting a phone once this goes bad I’m definitely getting headphone jack and SD card slot.
Genuine question. What do you use the SD card slot for? I havent needed one in like 15+ years at least. But I don’t do a lot on my phone.
I use it for:
- Music, mp3 and flac files
- Wallpapers
- Collection of images important to me
- Synced all using Syncthing with my laptop and a raspberry pi.
I imagine it makes keeping things like photos super easy, even if a phone stops working entirely.
I guess, but who actually stores photos on their phone anymore? Everyone I know/talk to just back it up to some cloud provider.
I don’t actually use a cloud backup. It’s me. And maybe the op of this thread, I guess.
Aren’t you worried about losing them? I keep my photos backed up to a local storage server and Google drive because I’m terrified about that. I lost my iPhone 5 back when it was new and that maybe is why I’m so nervous about it.
Yes. And I have lost them before, which is why an SD card is a pretty good idea.
But I also do things like take pictures of my tax forms to convert to PDF, as one example. I don’t need that uploading to Uncle Goog’s Spy Cloud.
Me? I also use Syncthing and my phone is part of a personal cloud.
Have you thought about the fact that maybe you can’t think of a usecase because you have already gotten used to not having the luxury of an SD card and owning the things you enjoy?
Nobody owns their smartphone. Just like nobody owns anything else anymore. But personally, my “cloud provider” is a server box in my basement which I do own.
I just don’t see the benefit of using an SD card. But I’ve seen too many of them fail while I was a photographer so maybe I’m just burnt out.
I don’t rely on the SD card on my phone to be the sole source of my data, it is a common pool so that I don’t have to walk around firehosing cellular data back and forth for no reason.
Syncthing works best when one device is always on or nearly always on the internet, so my phone is the perfect bounce port to keep a bigger network of syncthing devices working together on (note Syncthing will sync over a local network if possible, which is most of the time with my devices).
If the SD card fails shrugs I get another one?
I mean… that is the route that cameras take right? You just use two SD cards. I do the same thing but with a paired raspberrry pi and another SD card that is connected with Syncthing.
Like /u/Monstrosity already said, photos is great use. Dealing with it rn, want to transfer bunch of my pics to my pc and it takes forever and fails a lot trying to do it over cable so just putting it on SD card and then just plug the SD card into the PC is way easier. Solved it by installing sync thing so that works for now. I also like to store all my music locally so I don’t have to worry about bad signal or anything like that, also some movie and books for when bored waiting or something. I definitely love having stuff locally plus it’s just much cheaper large storage than getting a phone with bigger internal memory. So yeah there’s tons of uses why you would want an SD card. Makes lots of things easier and easily transferable. Same with headphone jack, don’t have to deal with connecting stuff guessing the pairing code if it’s one or the other default one. Just plug it in and done. Also don’t know how it is with modern phones but you can listen to radio using the headphones as anténa so definitely another use for someone that would want that.
Huh I guess that makes sense. Idk I guess I solved it other ways.
I back up all of my photos to a server I have at home so I don’t think I’ve moved a file off my phone in like a decade. And the closest I get is sending a single photo but I’ll just email/text it to myself in that case.
I also store all my music locally, but Im not even close to using all of my storage? I just checked, i have 6340 songs, and ~1000 photos/videos. And that takes up a total of like 26gb. So I’m not ever really limited by storage.
Same, sold it after a couple years and got one with a jack
