Been using it for 1-2 months ig, and its honestly, become a part of my warframe experience, its just that good. But i formatted my pc day before yesterday and yesterday i downloaded warframe and alecaframe again, and there you go, i got suspended. I filed for a ban lift request and got the ban lift, and also reported the ban to overwolf(alecaframe). They literally said they are working closely with the game developers and that alecaframe will not get me banned. So i used it again and there you go again, banned again. I got the 2nd ban lift but still, is it not okay to use alecaframe now? Or is it just my account now? For those thinking “oh you must have something else in your pc then”. Nah, formatted it, it just has a browser, and warframe

  • @_N_English
    7•2 years ago

    They literally said they are working closely with the game developers and that alecaframe will not get me banned.

    From https://support.warframe.com/hc/en-us/articles/360030014351-Third-Party-Software-and-You

    We would like to make it clear that our involvement with Overwolf is simply that we’ve had conversations to ensure that Warframe’s EULA and ToS are not being breached in any way.

    Overwolf is somehow getting your inventory from the game. Speculation is it’s reading memory or network traffic. That is, in my interpretation, a violation of the TOS, but they were somehow getting away with it (or DE were being lenient, because it’s not really that big of a deal to get your inventory out of the game).

    Since you’ve been banned twice so far, I’d recommend you stop using it. I’m surprised you got your ban lifted the second time.

    • @ChromeDynamoOPEnglish
      2•2 years ago

      i did stop using it and yea lol, even im surprised the ban got lifted twice

    • @ChromeDynamoOPEnglish
      1•2 years ago

      Here, a ss from what overwolf replied

      • @_N_English
        2•2 years ago

        Well, yeah, they have their boilerplate. The problem is, public statements from DE and Overwolf are at odds with each other.

        DE claims that they only talked with Overwolf to ensure they don’t do anything that breaks the EULA. What does the EULA say?

        h. use any unauthorized third-party software that intercepts, “mines”, or otherwise collects information from, within or through the Software or Service, including without limitation, any software that reads areas of RAM used by the Software to store information about a character, in-game items or the Software environment; provided, however, that Digital Extremes may, in its sole discretion, allow the use of specified third party user interfaces;

        Overwolf is clearly collecting information from the game to get your inventory, and DE did not say they gave Overwolf special permission to do it.

        What might be happening here is that Overwolf started triggering their automated detection, but they don’t want to ban everyone using Alecaframe (because that would be a lot of players), so that might be why they’re so willing to unban you.

        • @ChromeDynamoOPEnglish
          1•2 years ago

          ahh, i see anyways, ill just go along without using alecaframe til DE actually confirms its okay and not punished

          • @WarfarmerMcDonaldEnglish
            2•2 years ago

            That’s very frustrating. Alecaframe has made my life so much easier over the last two months. This is what the companion app should be, but you can’t even be logged in to it to search your inventory. : p

          • @JariWeisEnglish
            1•2 years ago

            Unfortunately, they will never come out and say that. Overwolf, at its core, is accessing their data. They explicitly state the following in their third party software thread:

            “If you use external software in conjunction with Warframe, then you do so at your own risk. (…) This leads into why a list is not provided. If you have a piece of Macro software that is normally tolerated, but is then discovered to be the source of a future exploit, that software may get added to a ban list, and you could potentially be caught up in the automatic drag net. As stated above, there is no easy way to prove that the software used is benign.”

            They don’t give us an official “okay-list”, because every app can change functionality with an update to the point where it would be against ToS.