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qaz to Lord of the memes@midwest.socialEnglish • 3 months ago

Maybe they've always been Mordor

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Maybe they've always been Mordor

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qaz to Lord of the memes@midwest.socialEnglish • 3 months ago
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    31•3 months ago

    I’m starting to think the same thing, if you go over US foreign policy since WW2 it is almost like the mask is just coming off entirely now.

    • @gabbath@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      11•3 months ago

      America did a lot of bad stuff, to put it mildly. This is definitely something else though.

      • @Yaarmehearty@lemmy.ml
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        6•3 months ago

        I agree, that’s what I mean by it just going mask off, there’s no pretending about a probable cause of higher moral path etc this time.

    • @Malek061@lemmy.world
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      6•3 months ago

      What? You’re welcome for all that world peace and prosperity since ww2. It is about time Europe started to share this burden.

      • zqps
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        3 months ago

        Sorry to burst that bubble, but just because you were never taught about the things they’re talking about doesn’t mean they didn’t happen.

        It just means your education system, like most, is run by nationalists that care more about using mythology to make more nationalists than about conveying historical fact.

        • @Quadhammer@lemmy.world
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          3•3 months ago

          Lol national mythology

          • zqps
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            4•3 months ago

            Exactly! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_myth

      • @funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works
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        9•3 months ago

        It’s pretty disingenuous to act like the US took sole credit, or that Europe didn’t share in the burden of WW2.

        Plus re:world peace - the USA has been involved in 32 wars since WW2 ended, none of them on American soil.

        • @Malek061@lemmy.world
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          1•3 months ago

          Check the numbers. Those are vastly tiny compared to ww1 and ww2. Small policing actions are necessary to keep dictators in line.

          There wouldn’t be a ww2 without Europe. Their faulty treaties and failure to stop dictators led to the conflict. America cleaned it up.

          • @eluvinar@szmer.info
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            oh yes, the small policing action known as The Cold War that almost ended the human civilization

            • @funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works
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              7•3 months ago

              followed right up with the friendly local copper checking in on Iraq and Afghanistan as a social call

            • @Malek061@lemmy.world
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              1•3 months ago

              When did the United states and the Soviet union fight?

              • @eluvinar@szmer.info
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                6•3 months ago

                1944–1949, 1945–1946, 1946–1954, 1947, 1948–1960, 1950–1953, 1952–1960, 1955–1975, 1954–1955, 1958 (x2), 1960–1996, 1960–1965, 1974–1991, 1962–1970, 1962–1976, 1962–1990, 1963–1967, 1965, 1965–1979, 1965–1983, 1966–1967, 1966–1969, 1966–1990, 1968–1982, 1968–1989, 1968–1989, 1969, 1971, 1972, 1974–2002, 1974–1991, 1975–1999, 1977, 1977–1991, 1978 (alleged involvement of USSR), 1978–1982, 1978–1987, 1979, 1979–1989, 1987–1988, 1989–1991

                • @Malek061@lemmy.world
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                  1•3 months ago

                  Proxy wars are not declared wars. There is a difference. Like millions of dead difference.

          • OBJECTION!
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            8•3 months ago

            Does Vietnam fall under “small policing actions that are necessary to keep dictators in line?”

            • @Malek061@lemmy.world
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              Yes. Extremely low casualty rate compared to ww2.

              • OBJECTION!
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                8•3 months ago

                K bud.

                • @Malek061@lemmy.world
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                  1•3 months ago

                  Have you seen the numbers or are you throwing an opinion out there?

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                    6•3 months ago

                    The numbers are irrelevant. Just because WWII was so deadly doesn’t mean you should trivialize Vietnam and other conflicts. It’s ridiculous to call it a “small policing action to keep dictators in line” when over a million people were murdered in a war of aggression, propping up a dictator against a popular movement.

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