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  • @sandriverOP
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    13 days ago

    Still in the process of formaing it, but I’m using Primed Shred and a blast+acuity build so that it turns lines of enemies into lines of explosions. Damage output is quite good. Main way to abuse it is with Arcane Crepuscular due to its ludicrous 40% base CC, which comes out around 320% CC minimum with Acuity + Galv Scope and a single on-kill stack. Due to the punchthrough, blast builds will usually have several stacks at all times.

    Other than that, while it has kind of low status for a beam, I think it’s a more offensive thing primer/crowd deleter than the Tenet Glax. Native corr means you can either do a rainbow build with mag-corr-viral, or do mag-corr-cold with a single mod.

    • @Kaldo
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      22 days ago

      Ehh, seems nicher and nicher. Its a crit powerhouse but i’m not really sold on the blast build since there aren’t just enough mod slots to focus on both crit and status, and innate corrosive dilutes the status effects, and invisibilty for crepuscular is annoying to maintain in most cases.

      I much prefer glax but then again I only use it on frost and citrine, feels like it has good synergy there. Maybe synapse is the same for cyte

      • @sandriverOP
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        22 days ago

        Well, you don’t have to run blastcuity, I just used it for levelling since it’s the highest KPM option available in my opinion. I tried a pure Frostbite build with no acuity and it’s also quite performant.

        What sort of build are you thinking of when you say there isn’t room for crit and status? For crit I do: acuity, galv scope, vital sense. For status I do heat+cold and elementalist, leaving two flex slots. In my opinion, status dilution doesn’t matter as much for Blast since the only proc that really matters is the one that’s on the enemy when it dies and takes all its friends with it.

        • @Kaldo
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          2 days ago

          This is my crit and this is my blast. One flex slot / dont have enough forma yet to fit sth there. I guess I can fit elementalist in the crit build but it has pretty low status chance without crux, but im not sure what i can drop in the blast build to fit 2 crit mods.

          • @sandriverOP
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            22 days ago

            On the crit build, I think you could put Elementalist and be done with it. Due to the way Blast works, getting even a single proc on an enemy before they die is equivalent to another 2.7x modded base damage from Elementalist. While weapon only has 15% status per tick, and I think ~8% blast per tick, the tick rate is quite high and I find in practice I was reliably proccing anyway.

            What’s the performance like on your blast build? I think if you play frames that can debuff enemies you can dump Serration to free up a slot for a crit mod, since Aptitude just needs a handful of weak enemies to get the ball rolling. Running both is for multiplicative GunCO weapons, which no beams are.

            • @Kaldo
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              1 day ago

              It’s hard to tell because in actual 1999 missions everything kinda explodes right away anyway but the 2nd blast build (with removed serration and added crit mods) seems to perform better. Crux definitely makes it feel better due to ammo efficiency, and the blast is extremely easy to stack up resulting in area clears as expected, so in missions where you don’t need single target damage and it’s easy enough to even accidentally hit a weakpoint… it’s not that bad at all. I also replaced critical delay with galvanized scope as recommended, aiming down sights is annoying but really worth it in the end

              Without serration you really need a primer, either from wf abilities or companion and at that point anything will kill too so i dunno how flexible it really is, could be just carried by other mechanics at this point.

              edit: I just tried bassocyst - well, you can read all of this above or you can just take the improved arca plasmor and press LMB to vaporize everything in front of you in a second. I’m not even done with formaing it and it’s clearing every mission better than my other primaries. The alt attack doesn’t seem to be worth using but the basic attack modded for crit, blast and fire rate is just bonkers

              • @sandriverOP
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                11 day ago

                If you’re finding ADS annoying, it might not be worth it. Always optimise for fun! Galv Scope and similar mods are more like enhancements for a specific playstyle for people that already enjoy it. I like aiming because it induces a flow state for me, the extreme damage output from Galv Scope+Acuity builds is just a little extra seasoning, haha.

                But yeah, Bassocyst is overshadowing most of the primaries I think. I have a feeling Pathocyst is going to be washing most of the melees out too.