A lot of people who actually live there seem to disagree with you, and say things got a lot worse for them once they got to experience enlightened western democracy. Obviously we should take your word for it though, since you’ve clearly shown yourself to be a knowledgeable intellectual in this thread.
Typical yog- posts a bunch of articles from a decade ago as if they are still relevant- fails to read the next page that completely discredits his argument and/or posts from an obviously biased source e. Lol. Dismiss and move along- nothing to see here… again.
Here is the projection. When faced with your own methods you are quick to point out the bad faith which you yourself have systematically applied in every single comment in this very thread.
Maybe educate yourself on the subject then. A democracy is a government that works in the interest of the majority and is held accountable to the people of the country. A government like that would ensure that everybody had food, housing, healthcare, education, jobs, and retirement the way USSR did and the way none of western “democracies” seem to be able to.
You are really delusional and a liar. I do not believe for one second you grew up in the USSR, not one nano second. If you were present during that that period you would have noticed that these proud USSR population did not walk but ran towards the west and all the things they really wanted. Not what USSR barely could provide (remember the lines before shops? No you don’t, you were not there) but what the west could and would provide. You casually forgot that. Well, you could not forget little liar as you lied about being alive and present in that period.
You can’t believe that I grew up in USSR and actually liked my life there because you’re smooth brained victim of western propaganda. And when you’re faced with people who actually lived in USSR and liked it, you’re incapable of processing this information. Meanwhile, you can stop calling me a liar, cause I still even have my original USSR passport. Learn to deal with it troll.
You can keep calling me whatever you like, but anybody reading this thread can clearly see that you’re just insane.
There are a few too many compression artefacts and the small/strange aspect ratio/resolution of something you would’ve used a phone to snap a picture of…
Post one with you holding or giving me the middle finger or something and I’ll believe you. I’ll even go snap one of my Ukrainian passport (I burnt my soviet one). I might have my Polish one somewhere though…
This is such a disengenuous statement dripping with derision. Honestly trotting out this glib phrase is a clear declaration that you’re not interested in a good faith discussion.
A democracy is a government that works in the interest of the majority and is held accountable to the people of the country.
The vast majority of people in “shithole western countries” would say that this is true of their government. I’m not sure that’s true for people living in the USSR.
everybody had food, housing, healthcare, education, jobs, and retirement the way USSR did
We have all of those things. Sure they’re not directly provided by the government, but the government develops legislation to ensure that the overwhelming majority of citizens have great access to those things. The idea of a food shortage in Australia is unheard of. Was that true of the USSR?
This is such a disengenuous statement dripping with derision. Honestly trotting out this glib phrase is a clear declaration that you’re not interested in a good faith discussion.
Don’t pretend you were ever interested in having any sort of good faith discussion here.
The vast majority of people in “shithole western countries” would say that this is true of their government. I’m not sure that’s true for people living in the USSR.
Given the level of discontent in western societies right now, I don’t believe you. Meanwhile, as opinion polls show majority of people who lived in USSR now say they prefer the old system after getting a taste of the capitalist paradise.
We have all of those things.
There are literal tent cities of homeless people growing in many G7 countries each and every year:
And here is the whataboutism. Instead of replying to the question you attempt to deflect by pointing fingers. Again, typical of your bad faith behaviour.
Very on the nose for you to use a logical fallacy as a form of argument. Comparing democracy in USSR to the available alternatives is precisely how you determine the quality of the democracy.
How were those free and fair elections in the USSR?
A lot better than in western shithole countries.
Always shocked to see how debilitating of a mental illness tankie brain is
Amazing counter point you got there.
You should re read your own comment that I’m responding to. You weren’t exactly making a point, lmfao. Truly mental illness bruv
Nah, I made my point quite clearly bruv.
Ah, well, then my thought-out counter point is that the elections in the eastern shithole countries were worse :)
A lot of people who actually live there seem to disagree with you, and say things got a lot worse for them once they got to experience enlightened western democracy. Obviously we should take your word for it though, since you’ve clearly shown yourself to be a knowledgeable intellectual in this thread.
Typical yog- posts a bunch of articles from a decade ago as if they are still relevant- fails to read the next page that completely discredits his argument and/or posts from an obviously biased source e. Lol. Dismiss and move along- nothing to see here… again.
Here is the projection. When faced with your own methods you are quick to point out the bad faith which you yourself have systematically applied in every single comment in this very thread.
No, I’ve made actual arguments in this thread. Maybe read them and try to comprehend what was said.
I’m speechless.
Maybe educate yourself on the subject then. A democracy is a government that works in the interest of the majority and is held accountable to the people of the country. A government like that would ensure that everybody had food, housing, healthcare, education, jobs, and retirement the way USSR did and the way none of western “democracies” seem to be able to.
You are really delusional and a liar. I do not believe for one second you grew up in the USSR, not one nano second. If you were present during that that period you would have noticed that these proud USSR population did not walk but ran towards the west and all the things they really wanted. Not what USSR barely could provide (remember the lines before shops? No you don’t, you were not there) but what the west could and would provide. You casually forgot that. Well, you could not forget little liar as you lied about being alive and present in that period.
I was and I call you out: liar!
You can’t believe that I grew up in USSR and actually liked my life there because you’re smooth brained victim of western propaganda. And when you’re faced with people who actually lived in USSR and liked it, you’re incapable of processing this information. Meanwhile, you can stop calling me a liar, cause I still even have my original USSR passport. Learn to deal with it troll.
You can keep calling me whatever you like, but anybody reading this thread can clearly see that you’re just insane.
Feel free to go back. Nobody wants you outside of there anyway
Nice photoshop lol.
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There are a few too many compression artefacts and the small/strange aspect ratio/resolution of something you would’ve used a phone to snap a picture of…
Post one with you holding or giving me the middle finger or something and I’ll believe you. I’ll even go snap one of my Ukrainian passport (I burnt my soviet one). I might have my Polish one somewhere though…
This is such a disengenuous statement dripping with derision. Honestly trotting out this glib phrase is a clear declaration that you’re not interested in a good faith discussion.
The vast majority of people in “shithole western countries” would say that this is true of their government. I’m not sure that’s true for people living in the USSR.
We have all of those things. Sure they’re not directly provided by the government, but the government develops legislation to ensure that the overwhelming majority of citizens have great access to those things. The idea of a food shortage in Australia is unheard of. Was that true of the USSR?
Don’t pretend you were ever interested in having any sort of good faith discussion here.
Given the level of discontent in western societies right now, I don’t believe you. Meanwhile, as opinion polls show majority of people who lived in USSR now say they prefer the old system after getting a taste of the capitalist paradise.
There are literal tent cities of homeless people growing in many G7 countries each and every year:
CIA says that people in USSR ate just as much as Americans after WW2 period while having better nutrition:
And here is the whataboutism. Instead of replying to the question you attempt to deflect by pointing fingers. Again, typical of your bad faith behaviour.
Very on the nose for you to use a logical fallacy as a form of argument. Comparing democracy in USSR to the available alternatives is precisely how you determine the quality of the democracy.